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under now in the possession of the RA

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to black with Jimmy judge on the game

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change in that word

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good evening fade to black the spoke

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left we are live from a bunker somewhere

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in the middle of beautiful downtown

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Burbank California and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the United States

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hither and thither to and fro back and

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and armed arrows Jimmy Church what is

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right before the show tonight about an

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computer that I use in front of me here

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not not the phones and not the internet

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have email man I don't have the Internet

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blank in front of me I don't have the

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breaking news and well hopefully oh

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there it goes did you see it light up

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a huge week in front of us on fade to

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black tonight Linda Moulton Howe is here

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and we've got a lot to talk about so

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many breaking stories and and research

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here tomorrow night now we have two

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amazing back-to-back first-time guests

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on this show starting with tomorrow

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night Adam Apollo is here unbelievable

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and then Wednesday night Rhys Darby yeah

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very smart and he's been he's been in

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we couldn't arrange that well anyway

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and man Murray Murray on the show

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talking UFOs so and then of course

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with open lines all night long

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this is fade to black I am your host

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Jimmy Church I'm the game changer

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network and kg are a the planet I'll be

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right back after this short break all

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right I follow me on twitter @ JT radio

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at Jay Church radio email is Jimmy had

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back after this short break with Linda

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all right welcome back fade to black I

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am your host Jimmy Church tonight Linda

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because tonight Linda tomorrow night

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incredible incredible Rhys Darby here on

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Wednesday night Adam Apollo Tuesday

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Linda Moulton Howe tonight somebody

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Linda Moulton Howe she's a graduate of

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Stanford University master's degree in

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communication has devoted her life to

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everything all around the world

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environment she has received three

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regional Emmys a National Emmy

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nomination and a station Peabody Award

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of course she has Earth files.com her

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own the thing is this her own research

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that is presented there is extraordinary

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and all of you I invite you to go and

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check out Earth files I spend so much

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time there you now you know where I get

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my secret material she has traveled the

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world Venezuela Peru Brazil England

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Norway France Switzerland the

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couple of more countries to that list I

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would like to welcome back to fade to

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black Linda Moulton Howe land a good

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evening how are you hey Jimmy it is

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great to be back with you and a country

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I would love to add is Antarctica

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you know that's right I would really

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like to go there I would really like to

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go to the Admiralty Mountains where just

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recently this huge head a half mile long

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has been apparently

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and you and I were talking about this

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earlier tonight that I work with a US

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Navy captain who when I originally was

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sent those images and I sent them to him

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I always let him go through his analysis

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and it is to me something that is really

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more important and I when I wondered if

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you felt the same way that this should

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have been on the six o'clock news on the

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networks in addition to what was coming

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around the web because the Navy captain

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who took the Google map it is at

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earthfiles right now it's a report I did

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on August 30th he was able to rack back

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in time the Google Images and Google

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started in 2001 and he found three years

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later 2004 in the Admiralty peak where

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this big huge half mile long faces it

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was still there it was in the 2004

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Google aerial photograph and when when

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you have somebody who has an avian

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analyst background and they then go and

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study the latitude and longitude and

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they go back through Google I'm here to

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tell you this is not something that is

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dismissible this is something that

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deserves the world's attention and I

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personally am surprised the CNN MSNBC

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ABC CBS and on and on haven't done a

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report about this what I find

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interesting about that is when you have

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the the bunkers and the skeptics surface

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and with a story like this of course

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they will and and want to say that it's

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our imagination and you know have fun

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this particular case that is a face you

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don't have to squint your eyes you don't

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have to let your imagination go it's a

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it's a bleep and face Lynda on the side

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of that mountain and yeah and the

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one that was floated around that we

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began with was 2012 date and so it went

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back and at my article that is updated

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with audio and video the mountain-sized

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alien grayface discovered in Antarctica

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I go through that going back in time and

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showing how the Navy captain was able to

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take exactly the latitude and longitude

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that was originally released and it was

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an Instagram from UFO Scandinavia and

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they put it out saying take a look at

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this and give us your feedback and then

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the Navy captain that I have worked with

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for 10 years he took that latitude

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longitude and he went back in Google

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Earth and the years are very clear there

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is the September 28 2012 and then it

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goes there's two with September 28th and

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then it goes back so that you're going

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from 2012 back through the years to 2004

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and that's these numbers of photographs

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that the Navy captain was able to find

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that still have that impression of that

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I'm looking at it here at Earth files

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and the 2004 shot that it's the same

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face and you know there's let me ask you

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this you've been researching for so long

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when you see this and then you but

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everywhere you expect to find something

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anatomically like the ear there's a the

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ear is there right the opening the the

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face is symmetrical it's not

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asymmetrical it is completely

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symmetrical that in a natural sense how

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much of that could be coincidence in

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well I don't think we're dealing with

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anything that is coincidence and neither

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does the Navy captain retired Navy

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captain because he did measurements you

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know how you can measure in Google Earth

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and he did measurements on the clear

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mouth the nose the left eye is totally

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open and and then you do anatomical

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ratios you can study what are some of

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the ratios on faces and these looks like

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an oriental type of face and the

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measurements were consistent with if you

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had facial designs for wear eyes and a

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human and nose and a mouth now the issue

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is is this supposed to be a half-mile

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and remember that it is not small this

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is a half mile from the bottom of the

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pointed chin to the bottom of the

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pointed head or top of the pointed head

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so it's a half mile carving we are

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getting into the issues of something

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like on the inside oneááá on Mars right

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that huge of two mile long plateau that

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I have seen that face on a highly

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sophisticated computer screen at the

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analytical sciences corporation back in

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1982 and that's when I first contacted

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dr. mark Carlotto who was there working

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north of Boston separating tanks from

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trees for the Pentagon and it is dr.

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mark Carlotta who took a great deal of

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interest in that Viking photo that NASA

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dismissed it as quote a trick of light

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and shadow close quote

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right but dr. mark Carlotto and several

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others back in the early 80s they

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disagreed and they did a tremendous

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amount of Investigation and Mark

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Carlotto and I talked on the phone and I

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told him I would like to do a

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documentary because I felt that we were

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really truly looking at monumental

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architecture on Mars and he

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greenie he said I'd like you to come to

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where I can show you in my office on a

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large screen that we use what this idiom

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the full impact of this image is and so

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I flew back to Boston rented a car went

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north to the analytical sciences

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corporation it was one of those

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situations where you a guard has to take

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you to the elevator and you have to have

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a guard that goes up and you have

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somebody who is a guard that gets out

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and you go into a bank of offices and

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each each this is hard for the the white

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world to comprehend in facilities

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serving the black world it is very

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common for there to be red or green

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turning lights outside of each office

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door which means it's compartmentalized

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that much and this was an office that

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had those lights outside of a bank of

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doors so I go to his office I'm allowed

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only to go with him into the lab where

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they had to clear off every scrap of

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paper everything in that room and he

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takes me in and he said it's a big

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screen this was 1982 and I was sitting

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in front of a I I would estimate two and

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a half feet 2 and 3/4 feet by 2 feet

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height which was big for me as a

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civilian coming from the white world to

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see a monitor like this and he said I'm

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going to activate it and he said you're

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going to see a white dot of light will

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move across the screen relatively

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rapidly and then the image will form he

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said I would just be really curious what

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your very first reaction is to the

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high-resolution image so the dot of

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light starts and I'm not I'm not having

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any expectation I've already seen

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one of the smaller photos by them that

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had been in the news but when the screen

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went from the moving god of light to the

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full face it was it was startling it

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actually had an impact that was

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startling and he asked me he said what

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is your reaction and I said immediately

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it looks like I'm looking at a frozen

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scream there was something about seeing

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this huge head that there was no

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illusion about it being a trick of light

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and shadow and I'll tell you in a second

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but when I said that to him it it's like

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a frozen scream he his eyebrows I

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remember raised up he said well you're

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not the first person who said that to me

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and the reason frozen scream at that

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high resolution and and everything I'm

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saying think about the oriental face a

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half mile long in Antarctica if it were

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completely cleared of all the snow and

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ice that you would be seeing a huge very

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detailed head in this case I'm now back

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to Mars and on that screen you could see

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horizontal bands coming off of the head

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think of hot cheap suit time in Egypt

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when it was dark and black black and

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gold like stripes coming out across the

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forehead It was as if and and market

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didn't know I didn't know it they were

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thin lines that crossed in the middle of

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the forehead and we said is that holding

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on some sort of a headdress what are

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these lines crossing in the forehead

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that you don't see in the so-called NASA

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trick of light and shadow images at all

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coming down to the eyes for people who

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are familiar they'd left side of the

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face on Mars there

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then some sort of a landfall a cave-in

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who knows what had happened but it

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didn't

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obliterate all of the features the right

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side of the face is very clear and you

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still can see a lot of the left side of

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the face but I'm going to the right side

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the eye you can see like an iris with a

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pupil in the middle eyelids and the nose

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came down and just like you were looking

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at a real nose that would go into

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nostrils there was nothing about it that

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was interpretive this was like clear

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sculpture and came down to lips and the

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lips were extremely clear and this is

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the part I have never forgotten because

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I remember turning him said my god mark

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those are teeth you said I know that's

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right

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and when I say that in the in the less

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high-res you don't see the lines the

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demarcations that we would see when you

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think of looking at a mouth that has

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peas this had teeth like separate teeth

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that you could see and the mouth was

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partially wide open and that was the

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part that gave the impression of

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something screaming now that's how clear

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the face on Mars in Cydonia is on a

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high-end high-resolution screen that the

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Pentagon hires companies to separate

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tanks from trees at satellite so now

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jump to this photo that just emerged in

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August and the the image that was first

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sent out was dated in the Google Earth

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of September 28 2012 and as we just

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talked the Navy captain could take it

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back in Google to 2004 that means that

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this same face was there and there was

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more ice and snow it looks like on it

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I think clearly anybody would have agree

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in the 2004 and what has been happening

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in Antarctica it things are melting and

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that this is perhaps a process that is

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now inevitable that whatever huge

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monolithic structures are there

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somewhere on the surface of Antarctica

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under the snow that they're going to

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start emerging and one of the

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interesting things is is how this may or

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may not tie - what Spartan won the Navy

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SEAL whistleblower has with his own eyes

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walk in these vast halls nine-acre rooms

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two miles down where it's it's structure

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that we're talking nothing interpretive

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we're talking huge gigantic structured

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hallways and what did he say he was told

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that all of it was made out of it was

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made out of black basalt jump to this

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photo here of the huge oriental type

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face or gray face or whatever you want

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to college it is a half mile long and at

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least in the photos when you go to the

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ice and the snow part you can see that

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it is black rock there's no question it

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is black rock now there's another puzzle

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about what Google did when you look at

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the 2012 image it is a golden pan or

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goldish of color yes and I asked captain

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would why would we go back through and

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down through all of these images that he

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went through why if you for example if

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you go to earth files.com

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and you go into my earthfiles dot-com

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report which is entitled August 30th

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2019 that's only two weeks ago and this

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is mountain-sized alien grayface

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discovered in

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Antarctica and you scroll down through

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several of the images you come to this

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is a Google Earth map that has sections

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gold color overlay green overlay blue

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overlay white overlay and it even has

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some pink and why is this the truth was

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that captain would said that the only

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information that he could gather about

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why this one particular area that it

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contains this big head would have all of

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these colors they that Google would

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explain it as places where they have

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come in and done high resolutions but

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they don't explain exactly why all the

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different colors different at the same

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patch now when you look at this if

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you're looking at that face in snow and

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ice it's all white why did they choose

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the kind of goldish beige color for

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where this faces you can't help but ask

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that question no I'm looking at it now

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and there's it's interesting how when

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you go back you have a set of images

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here I invite everybody head over to

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Earth files and and see how Linda has

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this laid out the research is excellent

445
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and when you look at going back to the

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2004 December 2004 image that's what you

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would expect it to be right the color

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wise and then you have a October 2009

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image I'm cool with that too

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it looks like snow and ice the colors

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but when you get to the 2009 image

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clearly it's identical that the features

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have not changed in ten years you know

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and and so you go to the 2010 image it

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is it it's it's exactly the way that it

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appears today which is apparently I

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don't understand

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right right yeah now I wanted to ask you

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let's go back to the we've got about

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five minutes here before the break the

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to the basalt comments because when you

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look at all of the openings here all of

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the features the eyes the nostrils the

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ears

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certainly the mouth and icy teeth there

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too by the way in my opinion there

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definitely is a mouth with something

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there whether isn't whether it is

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depicted as gum tongue teeth it is as if

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a structure had been carved in the mouth

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as we would see teeth between lips it

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looks so is is there do you think that

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this is basalt as well

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a giant basalt face well I would love to

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know what this is made out of and but

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this is part of what I am actually

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working on now for updates the Admiralty

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Mountains what is the geophysics of the

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Admiralty Mountains I know that there

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are a lot of volcanoes in Antarctica and

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that's what basalt is black basalt comes

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from the lava of volcanoes so is it

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possible that this particular face on

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this particular peak that it was carved

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there because there was black basalt and

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right now tonight I don't have that

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specific answer but I'm trying to get

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the geophysics of the mountains worked

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out so that I can relate them in another

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report

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00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:42,120
what is the Admiralty mountain history

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and then where exactly are all of the

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volcanoes that we know are in the

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landmass of Antarctica which is two

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miles up to three miles below the

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surface of the ice on Antarctica today

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and that those volcanoes have been a

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target of research just in the last year

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- because they are

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years to be evidence that some of the

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volcanoes may be hot and that could be

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contributing to the melting of the ice

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in Antarctica it's another question so

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you've got the ingredients that when

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Martin one says that he was told that

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all those black hallways and those black

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walls with the hieroglyphs and the

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symbols were black basalt that would

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have been a material you could find in

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Antarctica because 34 million years ago

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it was a roundish continent it is as

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wide as the United States sometimes

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people forget that it's a huge continent

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00:29:02,599 --> 00:28:59,519
and it had been originally in what is

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known as Pangaea that's when the land

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masses of this particular planet were

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together and Africa was sort of at the

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center and the others were around it and

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starting about a hundred and seventy 180

520
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million years ago whatever was the

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geophysical reason happening from inside

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the core of the earth expanding the

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earth whatever happened

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that's when Pangaea the big landmass

525
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began to break up and this roundish mass

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at what would be sort of in a computer

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simulation at the tip of the African

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continent that roundish Antarctica and

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other pieces of land Antarctica started

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going down down down down for a hundred

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million years at least to ending up in

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the South Pole and here is a fact based

533
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on the pollen examinations and other

534
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:04,049
looking at stratified layers in certain

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parts of Antarctica they concluded that

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up until 34 million years ago it was hot

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in tropical and it was hot in tropical

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for there's 80 90 million years

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depending upon where you start the

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separation of

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Pangea and it being tropical and then

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00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:29,430
comes the mystery well what happened

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34 million years ago that it would

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suddenly start building up ice which is

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00:30:42,110 --> 00:30:38,910
the consensus of geophysicist right

546
00:30:45,410 --> 00:30:42,120
nothing else was building up ice but

547
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:45,420
Antarctica was building up ice and then

548
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:51,930
by 33 million years ago the ice was in

549
00:31:01,820 --> 00:30:57,410
that mile to mild depth and never ever

550
00:31:05,690 --> 00:31:01,830
left that path in the last 32 million

551
00:31:09,530 --> 00:31:05,700
years of losing this deep deep deep ice

552
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:09,540
except for a question mark 14 million

553
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:12,690
years ago and at 14 million years ago

554
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:14,490
there seems to be some evidence that

555
00:31:20,570 --> 00:31:16,980
something happened and there might have

556
00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:20,580
been a brief period where it began

557
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:23,400
warming and things melting a bit and

558
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:27,270
then it slammed right back to the two to

559
00:31:33,770 --> 00:31:31,290
three mile deep ice it is a very strange

560
00:31:37,370 --> 00:31:33,780
history the more you study it the

561
00:31:41,890 --> 00:31:37,380
weirder it becomes and now we're in a

562
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:41,900
whole planet that is warming and that

563
00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:45,210
we're getting measurements and getting

564
00:31:50,090 --> 00:31:47,220
news reports all the time about

565
00:31:54,740 --> 00:31:50,100
Greenland and Arctic and especially West

566
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:54,750
Antarctica melting at increasingly rapid

567
00:32:01,910 --> 00:31:58,050
rate now if that is important to keep in

568
00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:01,920
mind that Western Antarctica that's like

569
00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:05,190
one environment Eastern Antarctica which

570
00:32:13,690 --> 00:32:08,550
is the biggest part of Antarctica it

571
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:13,700
includes if you go down too well on maps

572
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:18,000
you know how a straw or Antarctica from

573
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:19,440
a certain point of view looks a bit like

574
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:22,650
it has a elephant nose coming out yes

575
00:32:29,540 --> 00:32:26,370
yes and we're what we want to do

576
00:32:32,150 --> 00:32:29,550
whenever you see that elephant nose

577
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:32,160
because people place Antarctica and

578
00:32:39,860 --> 00:32:36,480
every conceivable position in maps

579
00:32:43,340 --> 00:32:39,870
and the one that the military people I

580
00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:43,350
work with that they prefer the most is

581
00:32:49,790 --> 00:32:47,460
when McMurdo our base the US base is at

582
00:32:53,150 --> 00:32:49,800
the bottom of the map and that's where

583
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:53,160
the Ross Sea is well if you are looking

584
00:33:02,990 --> 00:32:56,970
at Australia with Rossi and McMurdo our

585
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:03,000
base at the bottom if you go your where

586
00:33:09,070 --> 00:33:05,490
your right hand would be from looking at

587
00:33:13,550 --> 00:33:09,080
McMurdo you are going into East

588
00:33:19,370 --> 00:33:13,560
Antarctica and the Admiralty Mountains

589
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:19,380
are about 460 miles from McMurdo that's

590
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:23,850
where that huge oriental black faces if

591
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:26,610
you continue with your right hand just

592
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:30,960
sweeping around the bottom of Antarctica

593
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:36,720
you come to Wilkes land Wilkes land has

594
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:41,730
the greatest magnetic anomaly known to

595
00:33:51,580 --> 00:33:45,090
geophysicist on earth they call it the

596
00:33:55,820 --> 00:33:51,590
Wilkes land magnetic anomaly now this is

597
00:33:58,550 --> 00:33:55,830
fascinating because the we'll call it

598
00:34:03,020 --> 00:33:58,560
the public geophysics explanation is

599
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:03,030
that it must be a metal rich magnetic

600
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:08,000
metal rich asteroid that crashed into

601
00:34:16,070 --> 00:34:12,240
Antarctica several million years ago and

602
00:34:17,630 --> 00:34:16,080
that has to explain the Wilkes magnetic

603
00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:17,640
anomalies I got to take a break right

604
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:19,500
here let me jump in I got to take a

605
00:34:22,990 --> 00:34:21,330
break our guest tonight Linda Moulton

606
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Howe we're talking about the face mm

607
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:29,010
Antarctica we'll do that when we come

608
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:31,290
back because it's Linda Moulton Howe I'm

609
00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:32,250
your host Jimmy church

610
00:34:38,150 --> 00:34:34,350
this is fade to black on the GameChanger

611
00:34:39,890 --> 00:34:38,160
network and kg RA the planet stay with

612
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:39,900
us

613
00:34:57,890 --> 00:34:56,210
welcome back fade to black I am your

614
00:35:00,080 --> 00:34:57,900
host Amy Church tonight Linda Moulton

615
00:35:01,850 --> 00:35:00,090
Howe is with this I want to remind

616
00:35:03,470 --> 00:35:01,860
everybody about the week we have coming

617
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:03,480
up on fade to black tomorrow night

618
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:06,570
Adam Apollo is here for the first time

619
00:35:12,620 --> 00:35:09,090
than the Wednesday night actor comedian

620
00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:12,630
researcher Rhys Darby it's gonna be a

621
00:35:16,820 --> 00:35:14,820
great week here on the show tonight it's

622
00:35:18,740 --> 00:35:16,830
London moment Linda you got a chance to

623
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:18,750
hang out with reset contact in the

624
00:35:23,330 --> 00:35:20,130
desert that was pretty fun wasn't it

625
00:35:27,290 --> 00:35:23,340
yeah absolutely I love contact in the

626
00:35:30,590 --> 00:35:27,300
desert yeah you you did a recent podcast

627
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:30,600
right yeah and yes I did and it was fun

628
00:35:36,380 --> 00:35:34,110
what do you make you know he's a very

629
00:35:38,930 --> 00:35:36,390
successful comedian and actor and all of

630
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:38,940
that but his knowledge his knowledge is

631
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:41,850
right there isn't it it was current

632
00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:47,310
sharp smart and sometimes we need comedy

633
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:49,980
and the ability to laugh in order to

634
00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:53,310
keep going and we were talking all over

635
00:35:58,190 --> 00:35:55,830
the map on and he asks excellent

636
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,200
questions I really really enjoyed that I

637
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:00,240
hope they have him back again yeah he's

638
00:36:04,670 --> 00:36:03,210
he's really cool so we've got I got him

639
00:36:07,220 --> 00:36:04,680
for a full two and a half hours on

640
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:07,230
Wednesday night so it's gonna be this is

641
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:10,110
gonna be really cool that now just

642
00:36:13,730 --> 00:36:11,850
before the break just to finish out that

643
00:36:15,860 --> 00:36:13,740
round when I was talking about Wilkes

644
00:36:18,260 --> 00:36:15,870
land and the fact that the Wilkes land

645
00:36:21,860 --> 00:36:18,270
magnetic anomaly is the greatest one on

646
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:21,870
the planet when I was doing the

647
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:24,330
videotape was part of one in Spartan 2

648
00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:26,730
for my for whistleblower videos and

649
00:36:34,850 --> 00:36:31,980
Spartan one is a Navy SEAL commander was

650
00:36:42,140 --> 00:36:34,860
a lieutenant commander when he was there

651
00:36:45,710 --> 00:36:42,150
in 2004 in August 2003 sorry 2003 in

652
00:36:48,020 --> 00:36:45,720
August and he walked the big

653
00:36:50,270 --> 00:36:48,030
architecture he was there to extract a

654
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:50,280
scientist who had been there for a long

655
00:36:56,140 --> 00:36:52,710
time trying to analyze the hieroglyphs

656
00:36:58,940 --> 00:36:56,150
and the symbols carved seven centimeters

657
00:37:04,400 --> 00:36:58,950
everything was carved seven centimeters

658
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:04,410
into this hard black dark stone that

659
00:37:10,819 --> 00:37:06,890
that was a technological

660
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:10,829
astounding and that was when Spartan won

661
00:37:17,269 --> 00:37:14,640
learned about the Wilkes land magnetic

662
00:37:20,179 --> 00:37:17,279
anomaly you can google it and I've done

663
00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:20,189
work about it and it's in my videos and

664
00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:23,880
you will find that geophysicist will say

665
00:37:30,949 --> 00:37:27,420
that it is probably a metal rich

666
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:30,959
meteorite that is magnetic what Martin

667
00:37:38,949 --> 00:37:34,609
one was told is that the Wilkes land

668
00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:38,959
magnetic anomaly is actually other

669
00:37:48,439 --> 00:37:43,380
intelligence technology deep under that

670
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:48,449
ice so there is something that we can

671
00:37:54,919 --> 00:37:50,609
physically measure on the surface in

672
00:37:58,519 --> 00:37:54,929
terms of magnetic field but the white

673
00:38:02,679 --> 00:37:58,529
world explanation is that it is an

674
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:02,689
asteroid the black world is that it is

675
00:38:10,029 --> 00:38:07,650
non-human technology the other part

676
00:38:14,929 --> 00:38:10,039
about this that I find so fascinating is

677
00:38:19,099 --> 00:38:14,939
the the face in on the side of the the

678
00:38:22,370 --> 00:38:19,109
mountain is 200 miles from the zoo

679
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:22,380
Shelly station and 400 miles from

680
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:26,130
McMurdo right they have the opportunity

681
00:38:31,699 --> 00:38:29,130
to go and explore there and I think that

682
00:38:35,150 --> 00:38:31,709
they already have I don't know if you've

683
00:38:39,799 --> 00:38:35,160
noticed I've gotten email or anything

684
00:38:43,609 --> 00:38:39,809
from any of your audience but when I

685
00:38:46,189 --> 00:38:43,619
presented this I got about a dozen or so

686
00:38:50,109 --> 00:38:46,199
emails from people that were searching

687
00:38:52,819 --> 00:38:50,119
the area around the face and they found

688
00:38:54,949 --> 00:38:52,829
multiple people sent me the same thing I

689
00:38:59,660 --> 00:38:54,959
had to go back and look it looks like a

690
00:39:02,959 --> 00:38:59,670
little white square certainly not

691
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:02,969
natural like a little monolith off of

692
00:39:08,059 --> 00:39:05,160
the left side of the face out in the

693
00:39:12,109 --> 00:39:08,069
snow the snow's perfectly smooth and you

694
00:39:14,209 --> 00:39:12,119
have this that looks like some type of

695
00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:14,219
monitoring device or something that

696
00:39:19,009 --> 00:39:17,670
could be you know from McMurdo or Zoo

697
00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:19,019
Shelly and I think that they know that

698
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:19,640
that face

699
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:24,560
is there oh absolutely I'm sure and then

700
00:39:32,170 --> 00:39:28,130
they issued to me is is it because they

701
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:32,180
can't control melt and that it is

702
00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:37,280
melting fast is that why the that if

703
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:39,470
they could they would have taken a snow

704
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:42,410
blower and kept it covered up and that

705
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:44,710
we're now at a time on earth where

706
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:48,290
melting ice is going to reveal more and

707
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:53,450
more structures that to me is something

708
00:39:58,210 --> 00:39:55,850
that seems possible and that in this

709
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:58,220
case this huge head

710
00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:00,800
somebody must have known that it was

711
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:03,230
peeking through that ice and snow back

712
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:07,610
in 2004 and that was 15 years ago it

713
00:40:11,620 --> 00:40:09,680
what do you make of I wanted to ask you

714
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:11,630
this I'm looking at my collection of

715
00:40:21,010 --> 00:40:16,610
images here of it and it looks to me

716
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:21,020
Linda that the eyebrows and the ridges

717
00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:23,450
for you know the skull the the ridges

718
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:27,350
for your eyebrows are there and it's

719
00:40:34,570 --> 00:40:29,990
symmetrical on the left side and there

720
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:34,580
is another eye they're identical and

721
00:40:39,490 --> 00:40:37,010
symmetrical to the right side of the

722
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:39,500
face what do you make of that are those

723
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:44,510
ridges identical well I think and so did

724
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:48,890
the Navy captain they the face is a face

725
00:40:55,780 --> 00:40:52,310
because the features are balanced right

726
00:40:58,030 --> 00:40:55,790
I see two eyebrows I clearly see two

727
00:41:00,730 --> 00:40:58,040
eyebrows there and I see two ears I

728
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:00,740
wanted to ask you one last question on

729
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:04,850
this too it looks like on the left side

730
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:07,970
of the nose looks like two entrances

731
00:41:14,130 --> 00:41:12,110
they're two doorways have you do you

732
00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:14,140
have any opinion on what we're seeing I

733
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:18,470
have tried not to go into interpretation

734
00:41:26,170 --> 00:41:23,090
oh and and I talked with Mark Wood I

735
00:41:28,930 --> 00:41:26,180
said what about if if a group of us said

736
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:28,940
let's go let's get some geophysicist and

737
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:31,610
let's go down there would we be able to

738
00:41:38,890 --> 00:41:33,110
go to the abbe morality

739
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:38,900
and explore and he said it's so tightly

740
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:42,650
controlled that even the you know if you

741
00:41:47,350 --> 00:41:44,090
have a cruise that will go to the

742
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:47,360
Antarctic it's all controlled and

743
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:50,650
therefore we're in an ironic situation

744
00:41:57,150 --> 00:41:53,450
where there's this massive continent

745
00:41:59,590 --> 00:41:57,160
which is being increasingly linked to

746
00:42:02,800 --> 00:41:59,600
architecture deep under the ice

747
00:42:06,820 --> 00:42:02,810
a half-mile carved head in the Admiralty

748
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:06,830
Mountains where the rest of us on the

749
00:42:16,660 --> 00:42:12,640
planet won't be allowed to go the

750
00:42:19,930 --> 00:42:16,670
McMurdo is 400 miles away and I would

751
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:19,940
think that they have an airstrip there

752
00:42:24,190 --> 00:42:21,410
and that you would be able to at least

753
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:24,200
fly over it but I don't know how you

754
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:27,200
would arrange that but it's so close out

755
00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:29,090
of all of the bases that are there right

756
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:32,230
you have two celli and you have McMurdo

757
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:35,690
virtually in the backyard of this face

758
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,480
and so it says to me like I said they

759
00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:40,880
know it's there would they allow us

760
00:42:46,540 --> 00:42:43,790
would they allow civilian access to it

761
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:46,550
well that's that's what Mark and I

762
00:42:51,970 --> 00:42:50,210
talked about and I had a recording of

763
00:42:55,090 --> 00:42:51,980
him in my earthfiles YouTube broadcast

764
00:42:58,090 --> 00:42:55,100
that I do every Wednesday night and it

765
00:43:00,100 --> 00:42:58,100
was very interesting to hear him

766
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:00,110
speaking as somebody who is familiar

767
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:02,960
with military rules and knowing

768
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:05,570
something about Antarctica and when I

769
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:08,930
said it could we as Americans could we

770
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:10,640
just say we're going to go to Antarctica

771
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:13,130
we want to go see this face what would

772
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:16,910
happen and he basically said you're not

773
00:43:22,330 --> 00:43:18,800
going to get there under the current

774
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:22,340
rules and that is something that we all

775
00:43:27,730 --> 00:43:24,410
have to face that we are now on a world

776
00:43:31,450 --> 00:43:27,740
where even if there is archaeology that

777
00:43:33,730 --> 00:43:31,460
could go back 34 million years to the

778
00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:33,740
last time that Antarctica was free of

779
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:36,790
ice and that it could be covering as

780
00:43:45,550 --> 00:43:40,490
Spartan one says those are 62 acres

781
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:45,560
sites that he was in all carved and that

782
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:46,800
each of the

783
00:43:53,870 --> 00:43:51,210
six of them 662 acre sites where he was

784
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:53,880
and his understanding was that there

785
00:43:59,330 --> 00:43:56,730
were many more vast all of this two

786
00:44:01,130 --> 00:43:59,340
miles down now I would like to bring up

787
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:01,140
something that I got a lot of emails

788
00:44:06,770 --> 00:44:03,690
from people saying God been in the Navy

789
00:44:08,780 --> 00:44:06,780
I've been military and I know there is

790
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:08,790
no such thing as a sub that can go down

791
00:44:21,830 --> 00:44:13,770
two miles well I took some of those

792
00:44:25,550 --> 00:44:21,840
emails to a military source who is in

793
00:44:28,370 --> 00:44:25,560
the black world and I said and he's been

794
00:44:31,340 --> 00:44:28,380
to Antarctica and he's been where these

795
00:44:34,780 --> 00:44:31,350
other structures are where he knows that

796
00:44:39,710 --> 00:44:34,790
spar someone is telling the truth and

797
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:39,720
but he's not on video or audio and the

798
00:44:47,090 --> 00:44:43,410
communication is not by phone or email

799
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:47,100
or anything like that but I have been

800
00:44:51,980 --> 00:44:50,010
able to get reality checks with this

801
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:51,990
source over the past three years and

802
00:44:57,830 --> 00:44:54,170
he's been absolutely correct about

803
00:45:02,810 --> 00:44:57,840
everything so I got to him there's a

804
00:45:05,420 --> 00:45:02,820
question that that some people have been

805
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:05,430
emailing from engineers and military

806
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:07,380
people who say it is impossible to

807
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:10,370
submarine down two miles to access a

808
00:45:18,490 --> 00:45:13,520
submarine docking facility as described

809
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:18,500
by Spartan one and others because the

810
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:20,850
argument has been that we don't have

811
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:22,650
materials to build subs that could

812
00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:26,090
sustain those pressures here is an

813
00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:31,800
answer from a confidential naval

814
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:35,270
military source who's been to Antarctica

815
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:39,690
who has been at the was what they called

816
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:44,330
the submarine docking facility quote I

817
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:47,490
know that terahertz frequencies that

818
00:45:52,940 --> 00:45:49,410
comes up in the business magnesium zinc

819
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:52,950
research that is allegedly of metal

820
00:45:58,460 --> 00:45:55,110
pulled off the bottom of wedge-shaped

821
00:45:59,810 --> 00:45:58,470
craft going back to the 40s that doctor

822
00:46:00,560 --> 00:45:59,820
helped put off and others have been

823
00:46:03,710 --> 00:46:00,570
trying to say

824
00:46:07,070 --> 00:46:03,720
for a long time terahertz frequencies

825
00:46:09,230 --> 00:46:07,080
come up in the John Burroughs case so

826
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:09,240
this is coming from this military source

827
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:12,960
terahertz frequencies can penetrate the

828
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:17,280
Earth's crust about two miles down in

829
00:46:24,770 --> 00:46:21,090
the white world otherwise in the black

830
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:24,780
world the depth is classified

831
00:46:33,650 --> 00:46:29,280
our current black sub fleet can easily

832
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:33,660
reach well beyond two miles deep our

833
00:46:39,410 --> 00:46:35,970
ability to deep dive has been

834
00:46:41,930 --> 00:46:39,420
revolutionized by incredible science and

835
00:46:43,460 --> 00:46:41,940
when he says incredible science he means

836
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:43,470
the back-engineering

837
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,730
of other intelligence technology has

838
00:46:52,190 --> 00:46:49,680
been revolutionized by incredible

839
00:46:55,330 --> 00:46:52,200
science in the black world that includes

840
00:47:01,150 --> 00:46:55,340
materials applied in theoretical physics

841
00:47:04,670 --> 00:47:01,160
time travel portals cyborgs robotics

842
00:47:08,570 --> 00:47:04,680
computing and so on we can go to

843
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:08,580
incredible classified depth for white

844
00:47:15,010 --> 00:47:12,000
world engineers and scientists their

845
00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:15,020
exposure to this knowledge is limited

846
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:18,750
given the fact that all access is

847
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:23,040
severely limited close quote what do we

848
00:47:30,110 --> 00:47:25,110
and I think that sums up our planet

849
00:47:32,810 --> 00:47:30,120
today yeah yeah yeah did the at that

850
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:32,820
depth I think what they normally talk

851
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:35,370
about and I'm talking about the United

852
00:47:40,250 --> 00:47:37,770
States Navy they always throw around the

853
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:40,260
number 500 feet right that that's crush

854
00:47:45,730 --> 00:47:43,110
depth that's it our nuclear submarines

855
00:47:48,650 --> 00:47:45,740
that's as far as they go what we know

856
00:47:51,350 --> 00:47:48,660
that's right that's right well we know

857
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:51,360
that but they they don't want anybody

858
00:47:58,370 --> 00:47:53,850
else to think that we can go past 500

859
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:58,380
feet well you are just making another

860
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:01,440
metaphor for all of us that we we are

861
00:48:10,850 --> 00:48:08,130
treated as a civilization of 5.7 billion

862
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:10,860
Homo sapiens sapiens standing up

863
00:48:17,290 --> 00:48:14,450
primates we are treated by

864
00:48:20,859 --> 00:48:17,300
so-called elite power brokers as if we

865
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:20,869
are truly idiots and that being able to

866
00:48:28,839 --> 00:48:24,050
manipulate counterintelligence has field

867
00:48:32,609 --> 00:48:28,849
days that that we are treated as if we

868
00:48:36,910 --> 00:48:32,619
are so stupid that all of these strange

869
00:48:39,310 --> 00:48:36,920
bizarre things that are floated as no it

870
00:48:40,990 --> 00:48:39,320
this can't happen because this can't and

871
00:48:46,329 --> 00:48:41,000
so forth

872
00:48:49,870 --> 00:48:46,339
is a kind of an insult to and an abuse

873
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:49,880
in a way of the general human family

874
00:48:57,900 --> 00:48:53,650
because it means that it isn't just

875
00:49:02,980 --> 00:48:57,910
racial divisions it isn't just religious

876
00:49:07,569 --> 00:49:02,990
divisions it isn't just money divisions

877
00:49:14,770 --> 00:49:07,579
on this planet it is a complete and

878
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:14,780
total disdain an attitude of disdain by

879
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:17,570
the power brokers whoever they are one

880
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:20,319
half of one half of one percent a

881
00:49:27,069 --> 00:49:24,410
complete disdain for the rest of us so

882
00:49:29,740 --> 00:49:27,079
our fellow humans and I think that's why

883
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:29,750
I work as hard as I do is that I

884
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:32,930
actually really feel in my heart and my

885
00:49:42,250 --> 00:49:37,730
soul that we as a human family are on a

886
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:42,260
planet that is not run for humans it is

887
00:49:48,250 --> 00:49:45,530
run for other purposes if it were run

888
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:48,260
for humans they were not would not be

889
00:49:54,430 --> 00:49:51,290
millions of children that are starving

890
00:49:56,620 --> 00:49:54,440
tonight and the hundreds of thousands

891
00:49:58,809 --> 00:49:56,630
that are dying all the time there is

892
00:50:02,440 --> 00:49:58,819
something really wrong with this picture

893
00:50:04,420 --> 00:50:02,450
on earth don't they understand that we

894
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:04,430
now have the ability to freely

895
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:07,280
communicate all around the world and

896
00:50:15,010 --> 00:50:12,410
that we not only can share information

897
00:50:16,859 --> 00:50:15,020
but we can make friendships around the

898
00:50:19,569 --> 00:50:16,869
world where we can freely share

899
00:50:20,859 --> 00:50:19,579
information and images and video that

900
00:50:22,780 --> 00:50:20,869
they don't have the control of

901
00:50:25,859 --> 00:50:22,790
communication that they did in the past

902
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:25,869
and their numbers going to get called

903
00:50:30,310 --> 00:50:28,130
that's that you know I underst

904
00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:30,320
and the disdain part but it's also going

905
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:31,580
to spin out of control

906
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:34,250
you remember though would you understand

907
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:38,090
the disdain yeah you know how would you

908
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:41,570
Jimmy jerk how do you define and

909
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:45,050
understand disdain by the power brokers

910
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:48,290
to all the rest of the human family why

911
00:50:54,700 --> 00:50:51,890
is there such disdain because I have

912
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:54,710
found out like so many others the big

913
00:51:01,540 --> 00:50:58,480
lie and the big lie Linda to me is that

914
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:01,550
nothing that we are told is the truth

915
00:51:07,870 --> 00:51:04,400
everything is sent through a filter and

916
00:51:11,380 --> 00:51:07,880
all you have to do is is take the time

917
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:11,390
to dig into any story any fact any piece

918
00:51:17,530 --> 00:51:13,970
of history any of it and just find out

919
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:17,540
that we've been misled and that that is

920
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:20,210
that is disdained that it is a total

921
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:25,760
lack of gut and compassion is the wrong

922
00:51:31,570 --> 00:51:29,510
word of Kings are there fodder that's

923
00:51:34,930 --> 00:51:31,580
right that's right and that's that's how

924
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:34,940
I feel and I think we're all waking up

925
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:37,760
to that now because we have you know not

926
00:51:42,010 --> 00:51:39,770
only people like you but we have

927
00:51:44,620 --> 00:51:42,020
information resources now like never

928
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:44,630
before 20 years ago they could still

929
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:47,570
control it they can't do that today you

930
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:50,930
know yet and yet we know that Google

931
00:51:56,050 --> 00:51:53,570
takes marching orders from the CIA it's

932
00:52:00,340 --> 00:51:56,060
been printed about that they they have

933
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:00,350
they made deals I and so the whole

934
00:52:07,930 --> 00:52:04,090
internet the whole digital world 5g

935
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:07,940
coming upon us so fast and they say that

936
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:12,530
the the sweetheart sex appeal of 5g that

937
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:14,210
they've tried to push is that we're

938
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:15,890
going to be able to download to our

939
00:52:23,020 --> 00:52:18,610
movies in two seconds or something

940
00:52:25,660 --> 00:52:23,030
meanwhile there is great dispute there's

941
00:52:28,810 --> 00:52:25,670
nothing settled that I know about the

942
00:52:32,830 --> 00:52:28,820
impact that the 5g frequency is going to

943
00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:32,840
have on earth life for a matter of fact

944
00:52:38,910 --> 00:52:35,510
it's my understanding that in some

945
00:52:42,070 --> 00:52:38,920
places where 5g has been operating trees

946
00:52:46,690 --> 00:52:42,080
for X number of yards tree

947
00:52:49,570 --> 00:52:46,700
have died where the 5g is but but here

948
00:52:51,310 --> 00:52:49,580
that makes the back to this point that

949
00:52:54,010 --> 00:52:51,320
we're on a planet in which it's not

950
00:52:58,330 --> 00:52:54,020
being run at all for our health and for

951
00:53:02,770 --> 00:52:58,340
us is if 5g were dangerous

952
00:53:08,010 --> 00:53:02,780
there is a corporate or power broker

953
00:53:11,740 --> 00:53:08,020
mindset that 5g must now be installed

954
00:53:14,620 --> 00:53:11,750
and come hell or high water and it

955
00:53:17,950 --> 00:53:14,630
doesn't matter what the data says about

956
00:53:21,150 --> 00:53:17,960
its impact on earth life that is what I

957
00:53:24,820 --> 00:53:21,160
mean about we're on a planet now and

958
00:53:28,030 --> 00:53:24,830
we're being decisions and laws and

959
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:28,040
motion of money and power are being

960
00:53:35,380 --> 00:53:32,720
moved for the 1/2 of 1/2 of 1% and not

961
00:53:40,270 --> 00:53:35,390
for all the rest of the billions of us I

962
00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:40,280
haven't seen any medical studies on 5g

963
00:53:44,830 --> 00:53:43,250
it's like they bypassed all of it we

964
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:44,840
don't need to do that we're just going

965
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:47,450
to play physicist they will tell you

966
00:53:52,410 --> 00:53:49,760
there can be a big danger that's right

967
00:53:56,110 --> 00:53:52,420
and I have heard something else that

968
00:53:59,700 --> 00:53:56,120
where 5g towers have been installed like

969
00:54:03,040 --> 00:53:59,710
no butterflies no bees no action

970
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:03,050
yeah like the note the trees died right

971
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:06,170
so what what is going to happen and why

972
00:54:11,620 --> 00:54:09,200
is it how is it that we have reached

973
00:54:14,020 --> 00:54:11,630
this point at the beginning as well bees

974
00:54:17,650 --> 00:54:14,030
they I started to say the beginning of

975
00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:17,660
the 20s but let's say the middle of the

976
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:23,230
21st century that we as a human family

977
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:28,130
have lost all impact on all of the big

978
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:31,760
forces that are running the earth you

979
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:35,090
know I used to write now 98% I read it

980
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:37,610
today in the New York Times ninety-eight

981
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:40,610
percent of something like that I'm

982
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:42,290
pretty sure it was it was a huge number

983
00:54:51,310 --> 00:54:46,850
of Americans want to have background

984
00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:51,320
checks increased on weapons and yet

985
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:54,070
nothing happens in the so-called

986
00:54:59,830 --> 00:54:55,970
representative government

987
00:55:02,650 --> 00:54:59,840
I I remember and I know that you do I

988
00:55:05,980 --> 00:55:02,660
remember growing up butterflies were

989
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:05,990
everywhere good okay butterfly today

990
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:09,290
Linda if I see one monarch I jump up and

991
00:55:16,450 --> 00:55:14,000
down in excitement it's it's bizarre to

992
00:55:18,970 --> 00:55:16,460
me it's like where did everything go

993
00:55:23,290 --> 00:55:18,980
where did all the bees go where did all

994
00:55:26,530 --> 00:55:23,300
of this of this natural existence that

995
00:55:29,290 --> 00:55:26,540
will where did it all go oh and it was

996
00:55:32,470 --> 00:55:29,300
the huge foot was they estimated half a

997
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:32,480
billion bees I died where they had

998
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:35,090
turned on 5g towers that's right I had

999
00:55:43,590 --> 00:55:38,960
just read that yeah and and so it's as

1000
00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:43,600
if something is getting priorities on a

1001
00:55:49,780 --> 00:55:46,630
certain kind of superstructure of

1002
00:55:52,930 --> 00:55:49,790
Technology on this planet that is

1003
00:55:56,290 --> 00:55:52,940
completely the priority is completely

1004
00:56:00,760 --> 00:55:56,300
disconnected from the impact on earth

1005
00:56:04,930 --> 00:56:00,770
life what is happening in Brazil now the

1006
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:04,940
Amazon is and always has been since

1007
00:56:09,610 --> 00:56:06,770
humans have understood the way the earth

1008
00:56:12,330 --> 00:56:09,620
works that has been the lungs of the

1009
00:56:16,990 --> 00:56:12,340
earth and that was not an idle phrase

1010
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:17,000
they oxygen coming from the Amazon

1011
00:56:22,570 --> 00:56:19,210
I believe it something like provides

1012
00:56:25,870 --> 00:56:22,580
20-25 percent of the oxygen for earth

1013
00:56:30,670 --> 00:56:25,880
life to breathe that one place if you

1014
00:56:32,650 --> 00:56:30,680
take out the Amazon rainforest I'm not

1015
00:56:36,370 --> 00:56:32,660
really sure what the consequences would

1016
00:56:38,530 --> 00:56:36,380
be on the atmosphere balance of oxygen

1017
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:38,540
and nitrogen and carbon dioxide and

1018
00:56:47,490 --> 00:56:43,280
stuff that we breathe when does the take

1019
00:56:50,410 --> 00:56:47,500
down of nature like the Amazon and

1020
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:50,420
Brazil and then there is another one in

1021
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:52,850
Africa that is called the second lungs

1022
00:56:59,260 --> 00:56:55,610
it's burning this year as well

1023
00:57:02,620 --> 00:56:59,270
if those two lungs of the earth were

1024
00:57:06,310 --> 00:57:02,630
completely decimated what would happen

1025
00:57:09,610 --> 00:57:06,320
to the atmospheric balance of gases on

1026
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:09,620
the earth and these now the the

1027
00:57:15,970 --> 00:57:11,330
that these questions are being raised

1028
00:57:20,890 --> 00:57:15,980
means that the forces at work are so

1029
00:57:25,050 --> 00:57:20,900
huge and having planetary impact that we

1030
00:57:28,030 --> 00:57:25,060
humans individually and as a collective

1031
00:57:31,330 --> 00:57:28,040
we are even what it's like we're not

1032
00:57:34,780 --> 00:57:31,340
even being considered the balance of

1033
00:57:38,460 --> 00:57:34,790
when you look at the the the circulation

1034
00:57:41,290 --> 00:57:38,470
of air around the around the world where

1035
00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:41,300
everything goes in balance off of the

1036
00:57:48,610 --> 00:57:46,160
Sahara from Africa up into the

1037
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:48,620
atmosphere down into the ocean feeding

1038
00:57:54,460 --> 00:57:51,680
the algae across the Atlantic back out

1039
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:54,470
of the water into Brazil into the

1040
00:57:59,320 --> 00:57:57,170
rainforest and what that creates not

1041
00:58:01,110 --> 00:57:59,330
only oxygen but other things that go

1042
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:01,120
into the atmosphere

1043
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:04,130
lots of action going on back into the

1044
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:07,520
ocean and back out you take away any of

1045
00:58:18,370 --> 00:58:15,410
that and the chain breaks we go now in

1046
00:58:22,300 --> 00:58:18,380
the past I believe it's the past 15

1047
00:58:24,330 --> 00:58:22,310
years 15 to 20 but growth the warming

1048
00:58:27,850 --> 00:58:24,340
the global warming temperature

1049
00:58:32,290 --> 00:58:27,860
approximately 95% of the heat has been

1050
00:58:35,860 --> 00:58:32,300
absorbed by the oceans to date when does

1051
00:58:38,740 --> 00:58:35,870
a certain saturation hit there and then

1052
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:38,750
there would be an acceleration in warmth

1053
00:58:42,820 --> 00:58:40,370
meaning the oceans have helped us

1054
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:42,830
they've helped us tremendously because

1055
00:58:48,250 --> 00:58:45,530
they've been absorbing a lot of the heat

1056
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:48,260
that has been being accelerated by the

1057
00:58:56,050 --> 00:58:50,810
blanket of co2 and methane that's been

1058
00:58:59,440 --> 00:58:56,060
building up and and now there are real

1059
00:59:02,800 --> 00:58:59,450
studies about what happens going forward

1060
00:59:05,710 --> 00:59:02,810
to the rest of the century because how

1061
00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:05,720
much more can the oceans absorb from the

1062
00:59:10,330 --> 00:59:08,510
of the heat yeah at one point we got to

1063
00:59:11,860 --> 00:59:10,340
take a break right here and when we come

1064
00:59:14,740 --> 00:59:11,870
back we're gonna talk about cattle

1065
00:59:16,330 --> 00:59:14,750
mutilations but yeah but this is this is

1066
00:59:18,550 --> 00:59:16,340
the thing at one point

1067
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:18,560
Linda we all know it mother earth is

1068
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:21,890
gonna burp right it's gonna hit it it's

1069
00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:23,440
not going to take much

1070
00:59:28,349 --> 00:59:25,630
to tip and when it happens it's going to

1071
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:28,359
be nothing but bad news we need to fix

1072
00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:30,970
it now that's all we just need to fix it

1073
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:33,369
now and and and make sure that our

1074
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:35,680
children and grandchildren and everybody

1075
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:38,410
else has got something to live on and

1076
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:40,240
that's where we're at today there's no

1077
00:59:44,130 --> 00:59:41,530
question about it our guest tonight

1078
00:59:48,809 --> 00:59:44,140
Linda Moulton Howe hi Meryl Jimmy Church

1079
00:59:52,049 --> 00:59:48,819
this story broke back in August cattle

1080
00:59:53,220 --> 00:59:52,059
mutilations once again are surfacing

1081
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:53,230
we're going to discuss all this with

1082
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:54,970
Linda when we come back after this short

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black I'm yours

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Jimmy Church I guess tonight Linda

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Moulton Howe always a great conversation

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tomorrow night

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Adam Apollo is here Wednesday night Rhys

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Darby

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Thursday night Fator night open lines

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all night long tonight it's Linda

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Moulton Howe and this story which broke

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back on August 7th 2019 about these

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cattle mutilations up at the Malheur

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National Forest which is about 20 miles

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from Burns Oregon when you when you got

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wind of this Linda what went through

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your mind first the very first headline

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five Bulls bloodlessly mutilated in

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Harney County Oregon and no bullets this

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was the most important part of the first

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story that I read because some people

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were reporting that these were five

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Bulls that had been killed with bullets

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to be harvested for meat what I've

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learned over the last 40 years where I

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began my investigations of mutilations

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back in September of 79 exactly 40 years

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ago is that counterintelligence whether

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they're working for the CIA NSA dia or

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sheriff's that have been told this is

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what you say they will immediately jump

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into mutilation stories and say that

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there were bullets or that it was

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something having to do with people who

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were getting the killing the animals for

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meat and it's not true so this was so

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important to read and I put this as my

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top quote in my August 4th birth

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files.com

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it is Colby Marshall the vice president

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of the Sylvie's Valley Ranch where these

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five bulls were found bloodlessly

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mutilated in Harney County Oregon and

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here's what he said quote there are no

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entry wounds a metal detector revealed

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no bullets there were no outward signs

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of a straw

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no rope burns on trees now scattered

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hoofprints nouse triangulation marks the

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Bulls

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look like they simply fell over and died

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close quote and as I was looking at this

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article if you went to my first

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documentary that was broadcast on the

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CBS station in Denver Colorado on May

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25th 1980 and you saw all of the animals

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that I photographed for that documentary

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back in that year and then if you jump

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to 1989 and you look at the all of the

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photographs in my 465 page book an alien

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harvest it is full of photographs

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there's no blood

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and that the lack of blood is where I

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had some of my most I would say

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intriguing pathology examinations when I

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work with a pathologist and we I would

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go and get excision I've personally gone

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into pastures 30 of these animals

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carrying formal and solution and

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scissors or a scalpel with the kinds of

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tags that you put on I would put here is

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the sheriff cut often with scissors

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jagged here is the mutilators cut

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usually very perfect harder than the

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rest of the tissue and then there would

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be my cut around both of those if you

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can imagine that in your mind's eye and

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that so the pathologist would know who

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which cut with which cut and over and

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over again on these bloodless animals we

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would find that the collagen had been

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cooked the hemoglobin had been cooked

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this was informal pathology reports that

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would explain why there was no blood

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coming from any of the excisions and

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that in these photographs in my books

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and in the documentaries that I

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done that if you look at this bull one

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is a five that came out in the August

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2nd Capitol press in Oregon you will

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find images in my work going back 40

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years that look like this mm-hmm

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so nothing changes the animals looked

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the same and I tell you so that people

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will understand that law enforcement

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right from the beginning going all the

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way back to the early 60s at least if

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not before they started looking to the

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sky themselves 70 years ago 60 years ago

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50 years ago

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because here's here's a classic case

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that sums up the eerie places that I

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have been this was a 1700 pounds deer it

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was in Logan County in northern Colorado

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where they had oh in an 18-month period

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they had 200 and some mutilations I saw

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every one of those files and this was

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that particular timeline with between 74

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and 76 they had many more but that I was

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picking years and the sheriff was text

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graves and he and his deputy were called

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out to take a look at this steer by the

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rancher who couldn't comprehend what had

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happened and the rancher had not locked

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on to the dust around that mutilated

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deer on purpose because he wanted the

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sheriff and the deputy to see here is

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the 17 pound 17 hundred pound steer

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lying on its right side the front legs

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are perfectly parallel the back legs are

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perfectly parallel they the animal is

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lying in a large we'll call it a pool of

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dust as Colorado and New Mexico and it's

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dry no grass will even grow and these

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are some of the sights that these bodies

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are found

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so you would be able to see you would

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think the animals own tracks walking up

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to the site and they aren't there you

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would assume that whatever it is that

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took the animal down there would be some

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signs of something or signs of struggle

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even where the animals own legs are out

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there so parallel nothing and Sharaf

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text grave said he and the deputy upon

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arriving they said let's go out 1215

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feet and let's take photos all the way

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around this animal before our feet go on

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to this dust quantity you can see that

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there's no prints and I have those

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Polaroids and copies and then the

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sheriff said when I got up to the body

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I'm looking at your missing eye tongue

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jaw flesh genitals rectum cored out like

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it's the classic in all of the thousands

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and thousands of mutilations around this

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planet going all the way back to the I

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think to the first half of the 20th

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century at least he said we could see

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that the head itself was in a hole and

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he carried one of those plastic things

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like Engineers do in his left pocket and

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he always had a ruler in there and pens

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and he took out his ruler and he put it

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down in that hole and went down in the

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report eight inch deep hole and he said

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the deputy and I concluded the only

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thing that we could figure out had

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happened that something had the ability

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to paralyze hold in place the 1700

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pounds tear on all of that dusty ground

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and leave only its head to move and that

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all of the excisions were bloodlessly

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removed and whatever that animal was

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feeling

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the only thing it could move was its

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head and in its agony it dug the 8 inch

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hole with its head members down in the

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hole while the rest of the body was on

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the flat ground and sheriff said whether

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that was one of the cases that left me

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with nightmares because he said the only

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thing that we can conclude when you are

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looking at precise surgery no blood no

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tracks anywhere around a body you have

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to conclude if 2 plus 2 equals 4 this

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animal was lifted up somehow taken

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someplace the surgery was done and then

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it was returned but even when we said

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that to each other

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this animal hot must have been taken

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away the deputy said but how did it dig

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that hole and he said at that point I

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the sheriff I I could understand that

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our logic applied to the bodies where

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the heads were not in 8 inch holes and

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that this case in Logan County of that

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steer broke all the rules and that for

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sheriff Tech's graves

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this was another benchmark that they

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were dealing with something that was

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intelligent purposeful could control the

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animal and leave the head maybe as an

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experiment to move everything that you

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just described here applies to what just

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happened in Oregon you know I've looked

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at all of the pictures I looked for

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disturbance in the ground

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I see no footprints I don't see anything

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- the cows are just simply on their side

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with their legs parallel the incision

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marks there is no discoloration there

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you know in the in the in the ground

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there's no blood nothing but a carcass

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with these incisions no meat removed

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01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:51,020
there isn't any of that there they they

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went over everything with metal

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detectors there's nothing metal there's

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no bullets involved

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it's it's it's about it's textbook as it

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gets from all of your reporting yeah

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and now add to this the eyewitnesses who

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have seen beams of light come down in

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their pastures I talked with

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half-a-dozen ranchers back in 79 to 80

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when I was producing a strange harvest

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and they told me that they had seen with

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their own eyes beams come down out of

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the sky and had either seen an animal

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01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:28,170
rise in a beam or lowered and that they

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were terrified and that they would not

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stand in front of my camera and say what

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they had seen because they didn't want

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01:12:41,150 --> 01:12:38,280
their fellow human beings to tell them

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that they were crazy jump to about ten

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years ago down in this was I think Sara

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01:12:52,370 --> 01:12:47,490
was at this case that I'm thinking of

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was in Brazil and I still can remember

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this vividly two men in a fishing boat

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on a river and I think it was dusk and

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they see a round object in the sky and

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they see the round disc

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it could put a beam down into the river

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01:13:17,210 --> 01:13:14,250
they couldn't see what was going up in

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01:13:20,690 --> 01:13:17,220
the beam but they saw something rising

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01:13:22,970 --> 01:13:20,700
in the beam at exactly that same time

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that those fishermen reported this round

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object putting this deme down into the

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river animal mutilations were being

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reported all over Brazil and Argentina

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and that area have had well I remembered

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that there was one estimate bison atha

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01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:42,260
which is a department of agriculture in

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Brazil an Argentine in that area and

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01:13:51,980 --> 01:13:49,680
they reported that they thought within a

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think it was four or five years that

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01:13:57,530 --> 01:13:54,770
they'd had three thousand cases of

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01:13:59,690 --> 01:13:57,540
mutilated animals reported to their

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version of the Department of Agriculture

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01:14:05,660 --> 01:14:02,450
and there's a story about that at

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01:14:09,859 --> 01:14:05,670
earthfiles going back somewhere to

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01:14:12,979 --> 01:14:09,869
around the 2002 2004 period

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01:14:15,649 --> 01:14:12,989
when you realize it's ongoing its

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01:14:18,639 --> 01:14:15,659
ongoing now as we are seeing another

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01:14:22,750 --> 01:14:18,649
cycle of these bloodless mutilations in

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Oregon there are reports in Brazil in

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01:14:28,869 --> 01:14:26,070
Argentina and half-caste

1343
01:14:33,589 --> 01:14:28,879
half cats are being reported in

1344
01:14:36,889 --> 01:14:33,599
Washington in Oregon in more a more

1345
01:14:38,330 --> 01:14:36,899
around of the London area maybe a lot of

1346
01:14:42,250 --> 01:14:38,340
people listening don't realize that

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01:14:45,819 --> 01:14:42,260
going back to the fall of 2015 to date

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01:14:48,619 --> 01:14:45,829
officially there have been fun they say

1349
01:14:51,889 --> 01:14:48,629
five hundred plus I believe is the way

1350
01:14:57,259 --> 01:14:51,899
the UK puts it five hundred plus cases

1351
01:15:02,929 --> 01:14:57,269
of half cats and mutilated small animals

1352
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:02,939
in a region between Croydon and London

1353
01:15:07,609 --> 01:15:05,489
and London going north about the same

1354
01:15:10,339 --> 01:15:07,619
distance to Croydon Croydon is a suburb

1355
01:15:12,109 --> 01:15:10,349
of London to the south and so if you go

1356
01:15:14,270 --> 01:15:12,119
into downtown London and then you went

1357
01:15:19,429 --> 01:15:14,280
north about that same distance and you

1358
01:15:24,109 --> 01:15:19,439
drew a circle around London 550 some

1359
01:15:25,790 --> 01:15:24,119
cats no blood cut in half front half

1360
01:15:30,379 --> 01:15:25,800
left back half left

1361
01:15:33,409 --> 01:15:30,389
sometimes legs cut off no blood ever not

1362
01:15:37,009 --> 01:15:33,419
on the fur not on the ground all all

1363
01:15:39,639 --> 01:15:37,019
with clean cuts yeah yeah and the

1364
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:39,649
sheriff up in Oregon

1365
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:43,050
once again this is sheriff Jenkins this

1366
01:15:50,659 --> 01:15:46,320
is the sheriff who is investigating this

1367
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:50,669
case said that only a few parts of the

1368
01:15:55,279 --> 01:15:53,010
carcass were removed from each of these

1369
01:15:58,009 --> 01:15:55,289
bulls they anus or scrotum testicles and

1370
01:16:01,879 --> 01:15:58,019
tongues and then he goes on to say that

1371
01:16:04,069 --> 01:16:01,889
none of this was chewed he is quoted

1372
01:16:06,739 --> 01:16:04,079
right here he says everything was a

1373
01:16:09,020 --> 01:16:06,749
clean cut I'm quoting he says the parts

1374
01:16:14,839 --> 01:16:09,030
were definitely cut out with a sharp

1375
01:16:16,819 --> 01:16:14,849
blade yeah exactly and it's you can see

1376
01:16:21,529 --> 01:16:16,829
that it's like Groundhog's Day for me

1377
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:21,539
right 40 years right I have been dealing

1378
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:23,370
with the same

1379
01:16:28,700 --> 01:16:26,690
types of cases in a world in which

1380
01:16:31,310 --> 01:16:28,710
counterintelligence working for

1381
01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:31,320
governments works overtime to tell

1382
01:16:36,980 --> 01:16:34,560
everybody that the large animal

1383
01:16:40,090 --> 01:16:36,990
mutilations the small animal mutilations

1384
01:16:45,140 --> 01:16:40,100
are justin misses their mantra predator

1385
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:45,150
disease or satanic cult and when i think

1386
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:48,330
back at all of the avenues that i

1387
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:51,600
researched and i am a person who likes

1388
01:16:59,150 --> 01:16:55,250
to get way down in the weeds in details

1389
01:17:02,180 --> 01:16:59,160
to me exploring every detail that is a

1390
01:17:05,470 --> 01:17:02,190
possible is often where you get some of

1391
01:17:09,020 --> 01:17:05,480
your best insights and information and

1392
01:17:11,900 --> 01:17:09,030
that when you realize that the same

1393
01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:11,910
types of mantra that were used on the

1394
01:17:18,050 --> 01:17:15,120
public in the media in the 60s when the

1395
01:17:19,730 --> 01:17:18,060
first cases were making it public and it

1396
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:19,740
probably went on to the beginning of the

1397
01:17:26,890 --> 01:17:22,080
20th century if not back a thousand

1398
01:17:29,540 --> 01:17:26,900
years right but the the same type of

1399
01:17:30,830 --> 01:17:29,550
makes the public in the media go away

1400
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:30,840
there's nothing here

1401
01:17:36,860 --> 01:17:33,450
it's predator disease or satanic cults

1402
01:17:40,130 --> 01:17:36,870
and you can easily dismiss predator

1403
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:40,140
disease and satanic cults in 24 hours of

1404
01:17:47,780 --> 01:17:42,530
investigating the files on these animals

1405
01:17:53,930 --> 01:17:47,790
so it's global it's ongoing today and

1406
01:17:57,410 --> 01:17:53,940
now why let's say text graves on my very

1407
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:57,420
first meeting with him up in logan

1408
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:00,960
county and sterling that's when he

1409
01:18:05,660 --> 01:18:03,330
looked at me and he said linda i'll save

1410
01:18:07,370 --> 01:18:05,670
you some time the perpetrators of these

1411
01:18:10,010 --> 01:18:07,380
animal mutilations are creatures from

1412
01:18:12,650 --> 01:18:10,020
outer space and I've told you that

1413
01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:12,660
before Jimmy and that I felt like an

1414
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:15,360
electric shock hit me when he said those

1415
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:19,410
words and then he guided me through the

1416
01:18:25,790 --> 01:18:23,760
ranchers to fellow reporters to a lot of

1417
01:18:29,660 --> 01:18:25,800
people to go and talk to I talked with

1418
01:18:32,990 --> 01:18:29,670
hundreds of people and we got on in

1419
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:33,000
front of our camera many people willing

1420
01:18:37,009 --> 01:18:35,610
even then to talk about the situation

1421
01:18:38,569 --> 01:18:37,019
and

1422
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:38,579
I remember there was one reporter

1423
01:18:44,930 --> 01:18:42,239
working for a newspaper that he had

1424
01:18:48,020 --> 01:18:44,940
gotten so many calls at their newspaper

1425
01:18:51,739 --> 01:18:48,030
desk about this white light that would

1426
01:18:54,129 --> 01:18:51,749
emit small white lights out over Logan

1427
01:18:57,470 --> 01:18:54,139
County in that area of Colorado

1428
01:19:00,049 --> 01:18:57,480
that's proceeding that's proceeding 79

1429
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:00,059
this is going back into the early 70s

1430
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:04,159
and the 60s and the reporter had done

1431
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:08,130
where you would do like a long exposure

1432
01:19:13,250 --> 01:19:10,530
of the sky and you could see the motion

1433
01:19:15,020 --> 01:19:13,260
in those photos I have in an alien

1434
01:19:18,220 --> 01:19:15,030
harvest and I have in my second book

1435
01:19:22,970 --> 01:19:18,230
glimpses of other realities Volume one

1436
01:19:25,700 --> 01:19:22,980
these are photos taken by the sheriff by

1437
01:19:30,799 --> 01:19:25,710
reporters working for their newspapers

1438
01:19:34,009 --> 01:19:30,809
the cover of my book an alien or an

1439
01:19:37,549 --> 01:19:34,019
alien harvest the first book it looks

1440
01:19:41,419 --> 01:19:37,559
like a 92 coming down a 90-degree angle

1441
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:41,429
at another 90-degree angle it is a

1442
01:19:49,189 --> 01:19:44,489
time-lapse photo taken by the editor of

1443
01:19:52,459 --> 01:19:49,199
a newspaper in Arkansas his camera was

1444
01:19:55,339 --> 01:19:52,469
on a tripod he was a professional he

1445
01:19:58,189 --> 01:19:55,349
gets this object and why were they out

1446
01:20:01,489 --> 01:19:58,199
trying to do time-lapse because of all

1447
01:20:03,919 --> 01:20:01,499
of the animal mutilations in that

1448
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:03,929
Arkansas County and he is the editor of

1449
01:20:09,979 --> 01:20:06,719
the newspaper decided to stay up at

1450
01:20:14,209 --> 01:20:09,989
night with a camera on a tripod and he

1451
01:20:17,870 --> 01:20:14,219
got this object in the sky coming doing

1452
01:20:20,359 --> 01:20:17,880
a 90 degree angle coming on second 90

1453
01:20:23,450 --> 01:20:20,369
degree angle and that is on the cover of

1454
01:20:26,270 --> 01:20:23,460
my first book an alien harvest there's

1455
01:20:30,549 --> 01:20:26,280
no retouching there's nothing this is

1456
01:20:33,770 --> 01:20:30,559
what came on that editors camera and

1457
01:20:36,049 --> 01:20:33,780
when when you realize that there were so

1458
01:20:39,739 --> 01:20:36,059
many people in so many different states

1459
01:20:41,870 --> 01:20:39,749
and provinces and countries who knew

1460
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:41,880
that they were not dealing with

1461
01:20:47,390 --> 01:20:44,130
quote-unquote predators disease or

1462
01:20:49,310 --> 01:20:47,400
satanic cults you you can dismiss

1463
01:20:50,659 --> 01:20:49,320
satanic cults immediately because

1464
01:20:55,159 --> 01:20:50,669
satanic cult just

1465
01:20:56,029 --> 01:20:55,169
and any priest who works on exorcisms or

1466
01:20:57,889 --> 01:20:56,039
works

1467
01:21:00,020 --> 01:20:57,899
having to do with satanic cults and they

1468
01:21:02,270 --> 01:21:00,030
will tell you when they look at animal

1469
01:21:04,729 --> 01:21:02,280
mutilation photos that has nothing to do

1470
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:04,739
with what we are dealing with Linda

1471
01:21:08,330 --> 01:21:07,530
satanic cults deal with blood blood

1472
01:21:11,649 --> 01:21:08,340
everywhere

1473
01:21:14,469 --> 01:21:11,659
are you are you prepared for another

1474
01:21:17,089 --> 01:21:14,479
harvest you know another season of

1475
01:21:18,679 --> 01:21:17,099
something like this going down or do you

1476
01:21:22,250 --> 01:21:18,689
think that this hopefully just maybe

1477
01:21:25,370 --> 01:21:22,260
isolated oh no this is absolutely

1478
01:21:29,839 --> 01:21:25,380
consistent with going back to the 60s

1479
01:21:33,370 --> 01:21:29,849
today cycles cycles of large and small

1480
01:21:37,580 --> 01:21:33,380
animal mutilations they come in cycles

1481
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:37,590
in this particular area in Oregon you

1482
01:21:42,290 --> 01:21:39,090
can go back and there have been

1483
01:21:45,109 --> 01:21:42,300
mutilations there before and in Oregon

1484
01:21:47,089 --> 01:21:45,119
in my book and alien harvest that's

1485
01:21:51,049 --> 01:21:47,099
where the book is so valuable it's like

1486
01:21:54,259 --> 01:21:51,059
a huge archive of what places with what

1487
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:54,269
photos with what forensic evidence was

1488
01:22:01,100 --> 01:21:58,800
being found of where the sick I start

1489
01:22:05,540 --> 01:22:01,110
with 67 the horse in southern Colorado

1490
01:22:09,500 --> 01:22:05,550
so an alien harvest starts with the 67

1491
01:22:13,069 --> 01:22:09,510
mutilations and went up to 89 and then

1492
01:22:19,399 --> 01:22:13,079
subsequently glimpses vol 1 picks up and

1493
01:22:22,429 --> 01:22:19,409
goes from 89 to 94 and as my work has

1494
01:22:26,839 --> 01:22:22,439
evolved I have done it I didn't start

1495
01:22:29,569 --> 01:22:26,849
earthfiles until nineteen end of 1998 so

1496
01:22:31,580 --> 01:22:29,579
I have been putting my animal mutilation

1497
01:22:35,149 --> 01:22:31,590
reports of which I don't know there's

1498
01:22:36,889 --> 01:22:35,159
probably 200 in there now over the over

1499
01:22:40,580 --> 01:22:36,899
the period of time of doing earth wells

1500
01:22:45,739 --> 01:22:40,590
so you go back to the 60s and the

1501
01:22:47,949 --> 01:22:45,749
evolution has always been let's say that

1502
01:22:51,169 --> 01:22:47,959
we are talking about Logan County and

1503
01:22:54,759 --> 01:22:51,179
they measured that before over an

1504
01:23:01,489 --> 01:22:54,769
18-month period it was something like

1505
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:01,499
198 or 200 and some a cattle horse goat

1506
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:04,970
sheep Pig

1507
01:23:12,260 --> 01:23:10,530
rabbits there's a big range of all sort

1508
01:23:14,180 --> 01:23:12,270
of domestic animals that had been

1509
01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:14,190
mutilated you hear about cattle more

1510
01:23:21,650 --> 01:23:18,840
than anything the truth is in 67 the

1511
01:23:24,290 --> 01:23:21,660
first animal mutilation that went

1512
01:23:26,690 --> 01:23:24,300
worldwide was the horse in southern

1513
01:23:29,630 --> 01:23:26,700
Colorado the reporter got the name and

1514
01:23:32,990 --> 01:23:29,640
the sex wrong it went out in to the

1515
01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:33,000
newspapers in the news world snippy and

1516
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:34,800
they called it a gelding

1517
01:23:40,729 --> 01:23:38,250
I personally interviewed burl Lewis the

1518
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:40,739
owner and he laughed he said the

1519
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:42,810
reporter got the sex in the name wrong

1520
01:23:50,930 --> 01:23:46,650
it was a female and her name was lady

1521
01:23:54,380 --> 01:23:50,940
and she was an Appaloosa so from that

1522
01:23:56,510 --> 01:23:54,390
period the first horse that made

1523
01:23:58,520 --> 01:23:56,520
international or the first animal that

1524
01:24:02,470 --> 01:23:58,530
made international headlines was a horse

1525
01:24:08,030 --> 01:24:02,480
what was going on before September of

1526
01:24:10,580 --> 01:24:08,040
1967 in Canada horse relations people

1527
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:10,590
don't realize that horses were what were

1528
01:24:19,460 --> 01:24:15,330
being reported first mutilated then came

1529
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:19,470
all of the cattle cases and today you

1530
01:24:23,690 --> 01:24:21,090
hear people talk about cattle

1531
01:24:25,850 --> 01:24:23,700
mutilations well it has always been

1532
01:24:28,270 --> 01:24:25,860
every domestic animal that you can think

1533
01:24:31,790 --> 01:24:28,280
of and then jump over to wild animals

1534
01:24:34,820 --> 01:24:31,800
the u.s. Forest Service I have looked at

1535
01:24:38,750 --> 01:24:34,830
the classic same ear eye tongue jaw

1536
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:38,760
genitals rectum cord out in Deer in elk

1537
01:24:44,810 --> 01:24:42,290
and then you find out that reindeer in

1538
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:44,820
northern Europe they've been affected

1539
01:24:54,290 --> 01:24:48,570
exactly the same way a marmot in Aspen

1540
01:24:59,150 --> 01:24:54,300
was mutilated the same way foxes are

1541
01:25:03,590 --> 01:24:59,160
found mutilated more like the cats I

1542
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:03,600
don't know why the Fox is a wild

1543
01:25:11,390 --> 01:25:08,250
creature a cat is domestic but you will

1544
01:25:13,700 --> 01:25:11,400
find that the foxes can be cut up like

1545
01:25:16,130 --> 01:25:13,710
the cats for whatever is the reason and

1546
01:25:17,990 --> 01:25:16,140
you know people say why Linda do you

1547
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:18,000
think cats

1548
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:22,170
cut in half and I'll throw this out to

1549
01:25:26,650 --> 01:25:23,610
you and your audience

1550
01:25:30,050 --> 01:25:26,660
it's a speculation of mine for some time

1551
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:30,060
because just like the cycles in time of

1552
01:25:34,910 --> 01:25:32,370
the large animals that keep repeating

1553
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:34,920
and repeating geographically there are

1554
01:25:39,820 --> 01:25:37,170
areas that I just expect that there will

1555
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:39,830
be mutilations over a 10-year period

1556
01:25:46,940 --> 01:25:42,930
maybe a couple of times or sometimes

1557
01:25:50,620 --> 01:25:46,950
three times well one of those areas for

1558
01:25:53,650 --> 01:25:50,630
the half cats is Falls Church Virginia

1559
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:53,660
who lives in Falls Church Virginia

1560
01:26:00,740 --> 01:25:56,730
you're going to a lot of people who work

1561
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:00,750
for the government right a lot of people

1562
01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:05,280
who work for the CIA NSA dia Falls

1563
01:26:11,650 --> 01:26:08,490
Church has been one of the repeating

1564
01:26:14,540 --> 01:26:11,660
areas for mutilations like Austin Texas

1565
01:26:17,090 --> 01:26:14,550
Tustin California you can go around

1566
01:26:19,730 --> 01:26:17,100
state-by-state and there will be places

1567
01:26:22,130 --> 01:26:19,740
where half cats have happened over and

1568
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:22,140
over again and it began I thought I

1569
01:26:28,820 --> 01:26:26,250
wonder since the New York Times did an

1570
01:26:30,860 --> 01:26:28,830
article about a hunt I think was a

1571
01:26:33,770 --> 01:26:30,870
hundred and sixty nine cases of half

1572
01:26:37,850 --> 01:26:33,780
cats in Tustin California

1573
01:26:42,170 --> 01:26:37,860
and Toronto Canada and they did that New

1574
01:26:45,260 --> 01:26:42,180
York Times article in 1989 they there

1575
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:45,270
seem to be a kind of beginning in the

1576
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:49,170
80s of the half cats and I wondered is

1577
01:26:55,030 --> 01:26:52,650
it possible that our government and

1578
01:26:58,490 --> 01:26:55,040
other governments have tried to make

1579
01:27:00,890 --> 01:26:58,500
agreements perhaps or that we have

1580
01:27:03,620 --> 01:27:00,900
fought some of the intelligences

1581
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:03,630
interacting with our planet and that

1582
01:27:09,340 --> 01:27:05,730
maybe there was some sort of an

1583
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:09,350
agreement and it got broken and that cat

1584
01:27:18,050 --> 01:27:14,850
that we humans love cats that maybe it

1585
01:27:21,650 --> 01:27:18,060
was retaliation at an a personal level

1586
01:27:25,930 --> 01:27:21,660
and that maybe that's why it has cycled

1587
01:27:30,770 --> 01:27:25,940
where it has that there is a retaliation

1588
01:27:31,790 --> 01:27:30,780
component to focusing on something like

1589
01:27:35,330 --> 01:27:31,800
a cat that peep

1590
01:27:35,870 --> 01:27:35,340
with love right and maybe to do with the

1591
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:35,880
government

1592
01:27:41,450 --> 01:27:40,050
now that is speculation yeah I gotta

1593
01:27:44,930 --> 01:27:41,460
jump in and take our break right here

1594
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:44,940
Linda and that's a frightening thought

1595
01:27:51,050 --> 01:27:48,210
isn't it this is weak well we have to

1596
01:27:52,970 --> 01:27:51,060
face up to all of it I just don't think

1597
01:27:54,890 --> 01:27:52,980
we should be coddled I think we all need

1598
01:27:56,780 --> 01:27:54,900
to know everything that's happening

1599
01:27:59,180 --> 01:27:56,790
this is fade to black our guest tonight

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01:28:00,780 --> 01:27:59,190
Linda Moulton Howe we'll be right back

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01:28:12,700 --> 01:28:00,790
after this short break stay with us

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01:28:17,610 --> 01:28:15,230
welcome back 50 black Camaro signatures

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01:28:19,660 --> 01:28:17,620
tonight Linda Moulton Howes back with us

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01:28:21,980 --> 01:28:19,670
[Music]

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01:28:24,530 --> 01:28:21,990
can follow me on Twitter I see a church

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01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:24,540
radio the conversation is hashtag F to

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01:28:28,940 --> 01:28:26,880
be a couple of thousand tweets already

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01:28:31,010 --> 01:28:28,950
tonight but it's Linda and we expect

1609
01:28:34,390 --> 01:28:31,020
that you can also follow Linda on

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01:28:37,730 --> 01:28:34,400
Twitter at earthfiles Linda I want to

1611
01:28:40,270 --> 01:28:37,740
one tough talk disclosure a little bit

1612
01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:40,280
and you and I through all of the

1613
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:42,320
conversations we've had over the years

1614
01:28:48,290 --> 01:28:46,050
we haven't been able to enjoy ourselves

1615
01:28:51,440 --> 01:28:48,300
like we are right now when it comes to

1616
01:28:54,310 --> 01:28:51,450
disclosure is is is the door cracking

1617
01:28:58,010 --> 01:28:54,320
open finally how do you feel oh

1618
01:29:02,570 --> 01:28:58,020
absolutely I think that quote unquote

1619
01:29:05,570 --> 01:29:02,580
disclosure happened long ago with all of

1620
01:29:09,260 --> 01:29:05,580
the hundreds of reports that have

1621
01:29:12,170 --> 01:29:09,270
reached the public about technologies

1622
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:12,180
doing things that we humans could not do

1623
01:29:19,730 --> 01:29:16,050
and the best example of that is December

1624
01:29:23,350 --> 01:29:19,740
16 2017 that Saturday morning I got to

1625
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:23,360
my office and the phone started ringing

1626
01:29:30,770 --> 01:29:26,490
Linda go to the New York Times and

1627
01:29:36,940 --> 01:29:30,780
they're in the top of the headline above

1628
01:29:40,430 --> 01:29:36,950
the fold was that big headline about Ora

1629
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:40,440
remember it was glowing auras and black

1630
01:29:46,900 --> 01:29:43,050
money the Pentagon's mysterious UFO

1631
01:29:50,750 --> 01:29:46,910
program and this was about Navy pilots

1632
01:29:54,830 --> 01:29:50,760
operating infrared one of them American

1633
01:29:58,880 --> 01:29:54,840
Navy pilot David flavor and that they

1634
01:30:03,640 --> 01:29:58,890
were quoted in articles in The New York

1635
01:30:06,530 --> 01:30:03,650
Times in Politico in the Washington Post

1636
01:30:09,710 --> 01:30:06,540
sponsored or put together by to the

1637
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:09,720
stars Tom DeLonge and that group who

1638
01:30:18,020 --> 01:30:13,650
were working with those pilots and so

1639
01:30:21,580 --> 01:30:18,030
they make a huge it's a big media impact

1640
01:30:24,260 --> 01:30:21,590
I think that we're talking about

1641
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:24,270
confirmation comfort

1642
01:30:28,010 --> 01:30:25,890
nation we that was the kind of

1643
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:28,020
disclosure we've had these waves of

1644
01:30:34,660 --> 01:30:30,770
disclosure now what we're asking for is

1645
01:30:38,420 --> 01:30:34,670
official government around the world

1646
01:30:43,250 --> 01:30:38,430
confirming and let's go back to for

1647
01:30:47,450 --> 01:30:43,260
example I have in front of me an article

1648
01:30:50,030 --> 01:30:47,460
that I did at Earth bias.com in January

1649
01:30:54,140 --> 01:30:50,040
4th 2018 only a couple of weeks after

1650
01:30:57,340 --> 01:30:54,150
the big New York Times article and I

1651
01:31:00,680 --> 01:30:57,350
used the phrase the juvenile taboo

1652
01:31:03,350 --> 01:31:00,690
against telling truth about an alien

1653
01:31:06,110 --> 01:31:03,360
presence and I go into the fact that

1654
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:06,120
Robert Bigelow owner of Bigelow

1655
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:10,170
Aerospace in Las Vegas Nevada who is got

1656
01:31:15,500 --> 01:31:13,050
contracts with NASA for these blow up

1657
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:15,510
buildings that may be on the Moon and

1658
01:31:27,770 --> 01:31:21,210
Mars and all over the place said that in

1659
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:27,780
his in his world and he ended up talking

1660
01:31:35,090 --> 01:31:31,410
about this on 60 minutes on May 28th

1661
01:31:38,750 --> 01:31:35,100
2017 he said I am quote absolutely

1662
01:31:41,480 --> 01:31:38,760
convinced that aliens exist the alien

1663
01:31:44,630 --> 01:31:41,490
presence is just like right under

1664
01:31:47,390 --> 01:31:44,640
people's noses close quote and you can't

1665
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:47,400
infer anything else but he means it's

1666
01:31:54,590 --> 01:31:49,770
not just the air it's below land its

1667
01:31:59,450 --> 01:31:54,600
water it's ice it's around us and to me

1668
01:32:03,050 --> 01:31:59,460
he was saying it's confirmed I'm I'm

1669
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:03,060
asserting confirmation that alien

1670
01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:05,850
intelligences are here and they are

1671
01:32:11,300 --> 01:32:08,490
under our noses whether we see them

1672
01:32:14,260 --> 01:32:11,310
recognize them or not and that the

1673
01:32:18,070 --> 01:32:14,270
policies of denial since World War two

1674
01:32:21,950 --> 01:32:18,080
very sophisticated Lee and well

1675
01:32:24,230 --> 01:32:21,960
organized by counter Intel has kept the

1676
01:32:27,290 --> 01:32:24,240
public in the media at an arm's length

1677
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:27,300
distance from truths that have been

1678
01:32:33,830 --> 01:32:30,330
reported all over the place by pilots

1679
01:32:36,950 --> 01:32:33,840
and others and I think that Robert

1680
01:32:37,729 --> 01:32:36,960
Bigelow is basically saying but it's

1681
01:32:40,910 --> 01:32:37,739
there here

1682
01:32:45,020 --> 01:32:40,920
we just need confirmation so that to me

1683
01:32:47,060 --> 01:32:45,030
is what I am hoping will happen that

1684
01:32:49,459 --> 01:32:47,070
they will take what already has been

1685
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:49,469
reported and that there will be the

1686
01:32:55,820 --> 01:32:52,530
press conference of all centuries around

1687
01:32:58,820 --> 01:32:55,830
the world at the same time in all time

1688
01:33:03,740 --> 01:32:58,830
zones at the same time a huge global

1689
01:33:06,130 --> 01:33:03,750
event saying now we can tell you the

1690
01:33:09,260 --> 01:33:06,140
truth we are not alone in this universe

1691
01:33:12,440 --> 01:33:09,270
there are all kinds of intelligences

1692
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:12,450
some are friendly to us some are hostile

1693
01:33:19,370 --> 01:33:16,050
to us some are neutral to us and with

1694
01:33:21,770 --> 01:33:19,380
the allies we want to assure you that

1695
01:33:27,010 --> 01:33:21,780
world you have nothing to be afraid of

1696
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:27,020
because we have allies and I think any

1697
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:31,170
any day I would like to see that kind of

1698
01:33:35,450 --> 01:33:33,210
a press conference announcing the truth

1699
01:33:37,580 --> 01:33:35,460
to the world could occur on any day I

1700
01:33:41,390 --> 01:33:37,590
just hope it happens sooner than later

1701
01:33:44,090 --> 01:33:41,400
because we are weakened when we are kept

1702
01:33:46,690 --> 01:33:44,100
in a state of ignorance on purpose by

1703
01:33:50,090 --> 01:33:46,700
government policies of denial and lies

1704
01:33:52,370 --> 01:33:50,100
we humans it's like what we were talking

1705
01:33:54,740 --> 01:33:52,380
about in global climate change and all

1706
01:33:57,709 --> 01:33:54,750
of the other things that we humans are

1707
01:34:01,490 --> 01:33:57,719
not given the respect that we could take

1708
01:34:04,490 --> 01:34:01,500
truth even if it completely and totally

1709
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:04,500
up ends and revolutionizes all of our

1710
01:34:12,380 --> 01:34:09,570
history all of political science going

1711
01:34:15,860 --> 01:34:12,390
back for centuries it needs to be done

1712
01:34:18,130 --> 01:34:15,870
because the truth is this is a planet

1713
01:34:20,450 --> 01:34:18,140
that that defense intelligence agency

1714
01:34:23,390 --> 01:34:20,460
man that I've talked to you and others

1715
01:34:25,700 --> 01:34:23,400
about back in December of 1999 told me

1716
01:34:29,470 --> 01:34:25,710
our government has proof and he used the

1717
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:29,480
word proof that three competing

1718
01:34:35,060 --> 01:34:32,570
extraterrestrial civilizations have been

1719
01:34:38,390 --> 01:34:35,070
manipulating and terraforming this

1720
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:38,400
planet earth for at least 270 million

1721
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:43,730
years I remember the reaction that

1722
01:34:49,670 --> 01:34:46,890
reactions I have gotten over the years

1723
01:34:51,860 --> 01:34:49,680
when I said I don't need disclosure I've

1724
01:34:54,890 --> 01:34:51,870
seen what I've seen I

1725
01:34:58,070 --> 01:34:54,900
I've witnessed things I've discussed

1726
01:34:59,060 --> 01:34:58,080
things I've seen the documents I'm I'm

1727
01:35:02,360 --> 01:34:59,070
okay with it

1728
01:35:05,209 --> 01:35:02,370
and the reaction I get for this I get

1729
01:35:08,419 --> 01:35:05,219
booed they they want what you are

1730
01:35:11,689 --> 01:35:08,429
describing there they want that live

1731
01:35:13,220 --> 01:35:11,699
televised that's disclosure for them

1732
01:35:17,570 --> 01:35:13,230
they're not going to settle for anything

1733
01:35:20,390 --> 01:35:17,580
less will they nation show the power

1734
01:35:23,780 --> 01:35:20,400
brokers it would be but I think that

1735
01:35:25,939 --> 01:35:23,790
we've all been sharing pieces of truth

1736
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:25,949
and how many people I must have a

1737
01:35:32,090 --> 01:35:29,250
thousand letters currently in reply to

1738
01:35:34,729 --> 01:35:32,100
my earthfiles youtube channel broadcast

1739
01:35:38,270 --> 01:35:34,739
that I do on Wednesday night where I put

1740
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:38,280
out certain questions and at least a

1741
01:35:44,689 --> 01:35:41,250
thousand letters that begin I've never

1742
01:35:47,450 --> 01:35:44,699
told anyone this before and you realize

1743
01:35:50,209 --> 01:35:47,460
that there is this huge interstitial

1744
01:35:53,300 --> 01:35:50,219
plain of civilization of humans that

1745
01:35:54,979 --> 01:35:53,310
they have either been abducted they've

1746
01:35:58,250 --> 01:35:54,989
been up in a beam they've been on a

1747
01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:58,260
craft they've been in a field with

1748
01:36:04,700 --> 01:36:00,480
nonhumans around them they have been

1749
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:04,710
underground they have been in all sorts

1750
01:36:10,810 --> 01:36:07,170
of situations with things that would

1751
01:36:13,340 --> 01:36:10,820
fall into the category of other

1752
01:36:16,700 --> 01:36:13,350
intelligences that will and let why do I

1753
01:36:19,430 --> 01:36:16,710
stress that because I do I'm now

1754
01:36:23,500 --> 01:36:19,440
personally convinced that we are dealing

1755
01:36:26,030 --> 01:36:23,510
with intelligences from other dimensions

1756
01:36:29,030 --> 01:36:26,040
that we're dealing with intelligences

1757
01:36:31,870 --> 01:36:29,040
from other timelines that we're dealing

1758
01:36:35,689 --> 01:36:31,880
with intelligences from other universes

1759
01:36:38,330 --> 01:36:35,699
not just life in this one particular

1760
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:38,340
universe I am convinced of that now I

1761
01:36:43,550 --> 01:36:40,890
think that the playing field is that big

1762
01:36:45,459 --> 01:36:43,560
and once you start getting into the

1763
01:36:49,459 --> 01:36:45,469
questions about interdimensional

1764
01:36:52,399 --> 01:36:49,469
penetrations by technologies and portals

1765
01:36:54,910 --> 01:36:52,409
and other intelligences the questions

1766
01:36:58,280 --> 01:36:54,920
that used to be asked about

1767
01:37:02,810 --> 01:36:58,290
quote-unquote extraterrestrials they

1768
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:02,820
that those questions seem too simple now

1769
01:37:08,510 --> 01:37:05,010
for how complex the whole situation

1770
01:37:12,620 --> 01:37:08,520
yes right and in many ways my friend and

1771
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:12,630
colleague Jacque lolei was there first

1772
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:16,170
with his anatomy of a phenomena that

1773
01:37:22,910 --> 01:37:20,250
went to into looking at mythology's and

1774
01:37:26,540 --> 01:37:22,920
dimensions is one book it's very

1775
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:26,550
important this entitled dimensions and I

1776
01:37:32,780 --> 01:37:30,330
remember once in a discussion with filet

1777
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:32,790
and he was saying Linda if we were

1778
01:37:39,470 --> 01:37:35,250
dealing strictly with extraterrestrials

1779
01:37:43,070 --> 01:37:39,480
from this universe we wouldn't have 2000

1780
01:37:45,980 --> 01:37:43,080
sightings a year meaning that he was

1781
01:37:48,710 --> 01:37:45,990
saying they're ever present ok

1782
01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:48,720
the part that was left out of most of

1783
01:37:56,030 --> 01:37:52,320
our discussions back in for me and not

1784
01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:56,040
starting before 79 jacques Valais was

1785
01:38:03,710 --> 01:38:00,960
working in the 60s what is left out was

1786
01:38:06,230 --> 01:38:03,720
the concept that is emerging more and

1787
01:38:09,980 --> 01:38:06,240
more that comes from government

1788
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:09,990
whistleblowers and others if we have had

1789
01:38:14,420 --> 01:38:12,330
other intelligences that have competed

1790
01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:14,430
with each other over this laboratory

1791
01:38:21,140 --> 01:38:17,280
earth maybe fought each other and that

1792
01:38:25,580 --> 01:38:21,150
there were three that there has been a

1793
01:38:27,710 --> 01:38:25,590
cohabitation in this big huge planet

1794
01:38:31,180 --> 01:38:27,720
that is eight thousand miles in diameter

1795
01:38:36,590 --> 01:38:31,190
25 thousand miles in circumference and

1796
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:36,600
that surface life you me everybody who

1797
01:38:42,940 --> 01:38:39,930
lives on land on the planet is living on

1798
01:38:45,650 --> 01:38:42,950
this really thin rind of crust of land

1799
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:45,660
two-thirds of the planet is water and

1800
01:38:52,610 --> 01:38:49,890
that if you have alien intelligences who

1801
01:38:54,890 --> 01:38:52,620
know how to go into matter they know how

1802
01:38:58,430 --> 01:38:54,900
to penetrate matter they're working at

1803
01:39:04,520 --> 01:38:58,440
atomic levels they would just create

1804
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:04,530
their bases maybe 25 miles down in the

1805
01:39:09,890 --> 01:39:07,410
crap in the crust and that they could it

1806
01:39:13,190 --> 01:39:09,900
would be like a two-story apartment

1807
01:39:15,380 --> 01:39:13,200
building we're on the top right and they

1808
01:39:18,140 --> 01:39:15,390
occupy a tremendous amount of area

1809
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:18,150
wherever the heck they want to because

1810
01:39:20,630 --> 01:39:18,810
they've got the

1811
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:20,640
technology and they would do this not

1812
01:39:26,090 --> 01:39:23,210
just on earth they'd be doing this on

1813
01:39:28,970 --> 01:39:26,100
planetary bodies and Moon throughout the

1814
01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:28,980
Milky Way galaxy and that suddenly you

1815
01:39:37,420 --> 01:39:32,550
realize you could have exactly as Robert

1816
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:37,430
Bigelow said that the nonhumans are

1817
01:39:45,410 --> 01:39:41,730
under our noise noses figuratively and

1818
01:39:49,370 --> 01:39:45,420
literally and that we have got to begin

1819
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:49,380
to understand we have never been alone

1820
01:39:55,460 --> 01:39:52,050
in this universe and that defense

1821
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:55,470
intelligence agencies analysts telling

1822
01:40:00,440 --> 01:39:57,210
me that our government has proof that's

1823
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:00,450
three competing non-human civilizations

1824
01:40:06,380 --> 01:40:02,130
have been using this planet for at least

1825
01:40:08,570 --> 01:40:06,390
270 million years well homo erectus and

1826
01:40:12,500 --> 01:40:08,580
our current model is only two million

1827
01:40:15,650 --> 01:40:12,510
years old that would mean that waves of

1828
01:40:21,050 --> 01:40:15,660
other intelligences have been using this

1829
01:40:23,390 --> 01:40:21,060
earth for 268 million years beyond the

1830
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:23,400
first primate that stood up in Africa

1831
01:40:27,770 --> 01:40:25,890
that's right and once once you start

1832
01:40:32,480 --> 01:40:27,780
looking at things in this perspective

1833
01:40:38,150 --> 01:40:32,490
you a whole bunch of other things begin

1834
01:40:40,460 --> 01:40:38,160
to make sense in terms of pyramids the

1835
01:40:43,130 --> 01:40:40,470
concept that there have been pyramid

1836
01:40:47,030 --> 01:40:43,140
builders all throughout this Milky Way

1837
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:47,040
galaxy goes to a abductee that I talked

1838
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:50,970
to down in Perth Australia and Sydney

1839
01:40:55,390 --> 01:40:52,530
Australia in that area when I was

1840
01:40:58,370 --> 01:40:55,400
speaking a few years back for Nexus and

1841
01:41:00,680 --> 01:40:58,380
he had written a book was extremely

1842
01:41:03,260 --> 01:41:00,690
articulate and he said that he was

1843
01:41:06,220 --> 01:41:03,270
consciously taken to another planet in

1844
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:06,230
another system and there were pyramids

1845
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:10,560
big huge pyramids and he began to

1846
01:41:17,740 --> 01:41:12,570
understand that the pyramids were used

1847
01:41:22,700 --> 01:41:17,750
for too big I'm gonna say technologies

1848
01:41:24,950 --> 01:41:22,710
energy that if the energy was provided

1849
01:41:27,980 --> 01:41:24,960
by the pyramids for the entire planet

1850
01:41:29,810 --> 01:41:27,990
and communication and energy and

1851
01:41:32,270 --> 01:41:29,820
communication by pyramids has been

1852
01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:32,280
implied as the reason that there were

1853
01:41:39,500 --> 01:41:35,520
pyramids on this planet but what are we

1854
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:39,510
fed through the centuries that that

1855
01:41:49,460 --> 01:41:44,730
appear Kia was a king's burial chamber

1856
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:49,470
no those pyramids in Egypt were built

1857
01:41:55,610 --> 01:41:52,050
for reasons that I think had to do with

1858
01:42:00,190 --> 01:41:55,620
energy and you know technology and

1859
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:00,200
communication I was reminded I want to

1860
01:42:05,150 --> 01:42:01,890
get back to it

1861
01:42:08,870 --> 01:42:05,160
jacques valet for a second I want to

1862
01:42:12,650 --> 01:42:08,880
make this very brief I was I was with

1863
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:12,660
Jacques for about 30 minutes at contact

1864
01:42:16,340 --> 01:42:14,250
in the desert backstage I was going to

1865
01:42:18,140 --> 01:42:16,350
introduce him and he got there early I

1866
01:42:21,170 --> 01:42:18,150
got there early and so we sat down and

1867
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:21,180
and talked and at the end of that I'm

1868
01:42:26,330 --> 01:42:23,970
getting ready to go out on stage and

1869
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:26,340
introduce him and at the end of our

1870
01:42:30,050 --> 01:42:28,050
little conversation I did I said okay

1871
01:42:32,510 --> 01:42:30,060
Jacques I know I know you know what's

1872
01:42:34,700 --> 01:42:32,520
going on just just share it with me

1873
01:42:36,430 --> 01:42:34,710
right now he said Jimmy you know how

1874
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:36,440
tall he is right he's looking down at me

1875
01:42:43,310 --> 01:42:41,130
and he says if everyone looks at the

1876
01:42:50,210 --> 01:42:43,320
interdimensional aspect they will find

1877
01:42:52,340 --> 01:42:50,220
the answers they seek and it was like a

1878
01:42:54,260 --> 01:42:52,350
lightning bolt in the forehead right and

1879
01:42:56,480 --> 01:42:54,270
now I've got Linda I've got to turn

1880
01:42:57,650 --> 01:42:56,490
around and walk out on stage and

1881
01:43:04,190 --> 01:42:57,660
introduce him I couldn't even

1882
01:43:07,130 --> 01:43:04,200
concentrate it was just you know and I

1883
01:43:09,740 --> 01:43:07,140
think yeah the last week's on my

1884
01:43:13,550 --> 01:43:09,750
earthfiles youtube channel broadcasts I

1885
01:43:17,060 --> 01:43:13,560
have had fascinating stories from people

1886
01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:17,070
who I interview and then put some of

1887
01:43:23,780 --> 01:43:19,110
their stories in my earthfiles youtube

1888
01:43:27,140 --> 01:43:23,790
channel and one on September 11th was

1889
01:43:31,190 --> 01:43:27,150
with a navy military person he sent me

1890
01:43:35,090 --> 01:43:31,200
his DD 214 learned a lot about his

1891
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:35,100
background and he said that going back

1892
01:43:44,909 --> 01:43:42,210
to 1975 76 . he was on a ship in the

1893
01:43:48,659 --> 01:43:44,919
Bermuda Triangle

1894
01:43:52,409 --> 01:43:48,669
he said all of a sudden clear out of a

1895
01:43:56,219 --> 01:43:52,419
completely clear sky came what looked

1896
01:43:59,129 --> 01:43:56,229
like a purple and green tornado that

1897
01:44:01,379 --> 01:43:59,139
went down on its side when he said that

1898
01:44:04,500 --> 01:44:01,389
I asked him to draw it for me because I

1899
01:44:06,929 --> 01:44:04,510
didn't quite understand so think of a

1900
01:44:08,459 --> 01:44:06,939
purple and green tornado as you have

1901
01:44:13,020 --> 01:44:08,469
seen them in photographs

1902
01:44:16,319 --> 01:44:13,030
and then instead of the tornado rising

1903
01:44:18,569 --> 01:44:16,329
up into the sky right put it down put it

1904
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:18,579
down on the like like it's hovering

1905
01:44:22,620 --> 01:44:20,800
above the water and that's what he meant

1906
01:44:23,219 --> 01:44:22,630
but they had never seen anything like

1907
01:44:29,250 --> 01:44:23,229
this

1908
01:44:32,669 --> 01:44:29,260
and it was swirling violent there was

1909
01:44:40,009 --> 01:44:32,679
wind associated with this thing

1910
01:44:44,219 --> 01:44:40,019
it was horrendous and then it leaves and

1911
01:44:49,679 --> 01:44:44,229
there on the water in front of our US

1912
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:49,689
Navy ship is a yacht Oh what he was one

1913
01:44:57,959 --> 01:44:54,010
of the men asked to get in some kind of

1914
01:45:01,169 --> 01:44:57,969
a the air water vehicle and go over to

1915
01:45:01,919 --> 01:45:01,179
the yacht and and board it where did

1916
01:45:05,699 --> 01:45:01,929
this come from

1917
01:45:08,699 --> 01:45:05,709
what in heck was this green and purple

1918
01:45:11,909 --> 01:45:08,709
tornado and they are in the Bermuda

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01:45:15,389 --> 01:45:11,919
Triangle this is where they are so he

1920
01:45:18,029 --> 01:45:15,399
had the personal experience of going on

1921
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:18,039
with some other men onto this yacht that

1922
01:45:27,419 --> 01:45:20,530
just merged out of this purple and green

1923
01:45:30,959 --> 01:45:27,429
tornado and find a 1958 logbook the last

1924
01:45:35,879 --> 01:45:30,969
date with in 1958 it was being written

1925
01:45:39,779 --> 01:45:35,889
by the husband of a family that aboard

1926
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:39,789
were a husband wife and children that he

1927
01:45:47,159 --> 01:45:42,239
was describing this beautiful calm

1928
01:45:49,290 --> 01:45:47,169
gorgeous day what they had cooked for

1929
01:45:52,679 --> 01:45:49,300
breakfast this is in this nineteen and

1930
01:45:56,850 --> 01:45:52,689
with Ares all these dates 1958 right so

1931
01:45:59,750 --> 01:45:56,860
he says they go back they report it's a

1932
01:46:04,170 --> 01:45:59,760
1958 logbook

1933
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:04,180
communication is made to some place who

1934
01:46:14,220 --> 01:46:08,560
knows but let's assume Washington and an

1935
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:14,230
order comes back blow up the yacht blow

1936
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:18,130
up the yacht now and he heard his

1937
01:46:23,070 --> 01:46:20,050
superior officer tried to say but the

1938
01:46:28,410 --> 01:46:23,080
Serbs it's a perfect craft we could do

1939
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:28,420
but blow up the yacht now and they all

1940
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:32,850
watched as they torpedoed this miracle

1941
01:46:42,210 --> 01:46:38,650
this beautiful shiny yacht in the

1942
01:46:44,700 --> 01:46:42,220
Bermuda Triangle and I said to him when

1943
01:46:46,140 --> 01:46:44,710
you were blowing it up assuming this is

1944
01:46:48,750 --> 01:46:46,150
a dimensional rift

1945
01:46:51,810 --> 01:46:48,760
what happened whatever this storm was it

1946
01:46:52,710 --> 01:46:51,820
was about a one of these cracks between

1947
01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:52,720
time and space

1948
01:47:03,510 --> 01:46:58,090
a crack that emerged this 1958 brand new

1949
01:47:11,730 --> 01:47:10,020
a naval ship and what might have

1950
01:47:14,790 --> 01:47:11,740
happened if you're blowing it up what

1951
01:47:18,270 --> 01:47:14,800
happened he said it just blew up Linda

1952
01:47:21,690 --> 01:47:18,280
but he said all of us on the crew we

1953
01:47:27,420 --> 01:47:21,700
were all saying why are they having us

1954
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:27,430
blow up this beautiful yacht well what

1955
01:47:33,450 --> 01:47:30,250
does our government know about cracks in

1956
01:47:37,170 --> 01:47:33,460
space and time and what comes through

1957
01:47:42,350 --> 01:47:37,180
those cracks it could have an impact in

1958
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:42,360
what we call our current time line I

1959
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:44,890
don't know the answer I'm raising the

1960
01:47:53,340 --> 01:47:47,050
question sure is that why they blew it

1961
01:47:56,460 --> 01:47:53,350
up I had okay Linda I'm gonna give you

1962
01:47:57,780 --> 01:47:56,470
the option we've got a we've got a break

1963
01:47:59,520 --> 01:47:57,790
here do you wanna do you want to

1964
01:48:02,790 --> 01:47:59,530
continue this conversation after the

1965
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:02,800
break okay I see that's that's that's

1966
01:48:07,380 --> 01:48:05,410
why you Linda Malta now that's why

1967
01:48:10,350 --> 01:48:07,390
you're Linda Moulton ow check this out

1968
01:48:11,870 --> 01:48:10,360
I'm gonna I got to tell you the short

1969
01:48:14,700 --> 01:48:11,880
version of the

1970
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:14,710
experience and then I want your comment

1971
01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:18,010
when we come back 1972

1972
01:48:24,900 --> 01:48:21,520
I'm nine years old I walk out in front

1973
01:48:27,930 --> 01:48:24,910
of our house into the playground on the

1974
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:27,940
school across the street and I look up

1975
01:48:34,650 --> 01:48:31,330
in the sky and I see what looks like the

1976
01:48:36,900 --> 01:48:34,660
Hindenburg a rigid airship with the ribs

1977
01:48:40,350 --> 01:48:36,910
you know the whole thing right okay and

1978
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:40,360
I see it and and I chase it across the

1979
01:48:45,810 --> 01:48:44,290
field and it's really low and I know

1980
01:48:47,610 --> 01:48:45,820
what that I'm nine years old I know what

1981
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:47,620
the Hindenburg looks like it's not the

1982
01:48:53,670 --> 01:48:49,930
Goodyear blimp right this is you know a

1983
01:48:56,190 --> 01:48:53,680
rigid you know dirt Zeppelin it's a

1984
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:56,200
Zeppelin and I chased it across the

1985
01:49:00,090 --> 01:48:57,850
field until it disappears in the trees

1986
01:49:01,860 --> 01:49:00,100
about six months ago

1987
01:49:04,970 --> 01:49:01,870
and I never forgot this right now I had

1988
01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:04,980
drawn it and as a young kid and and

1989
01:49:11,730 --> 01:49:08,110
everything about six months ago

1990
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:11,740
I just remembered it so I jumped on the

1991
01:49:20,370 --> 01:49:15,970
internet to find what Navy Zeppelin was

1992
01:49:22,440 --> 01:49:20,380
in Chicago in 1972 hoping I could find

1993
01:49:26,250 --> 01:49:22,450
out which one it was and and you know

1994
01:49:29,990 --> 01:49:26,260
and I find out six months ago that there

1995
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:30,000
has not been a rigid Zeppelin airship

1996
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:38,050
anywhere in the world since 1939 like

1997
01:49:43,860 --> 01:49:39,730
that yacht coming through a dimensional

1998
01:49:46,980 --> 01:49:43,870
time crack and what is the physics how

1999
01:49:51,690 --> 01:49:46,990
does it work and the haunting question

2000
01:49:54,660 --> 01:49:51,700
to me where are all of these things when

2001
01:49:57,750 --> 01:49:54,670
they disappear from our timeline our

2002
01:50:01,620 --> 01:49:57,760
dimension where do they go and how do

2003
01:50:04,650 --> 01:50:01,630
they pop back from 58 to 75 and be in

2004
01:50:10,590 --> 01:50:04,660
perfect condition yeah and when when I

2005
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:10,600
found out my my brain didn't work it

2006
01:50:14,790 --> 01:50:12,880
didn't function when I found out that

2007
01:50:19,220 --> 01:50:14,800
there wasn't anything in the United

2008
01:50:22,290 --> 01:50:19,230
States anywhere in the world since 1939

2009
01:50:23,890 --> 01:50:22,300
now I've got an issue here because I saw

2010
01:50:28,270 --> 01:50:23,900
what I saw

2011
01:50:31,210 --> 01:50:28,280
yeah I can't explain it I have a very

2012
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:31,220
difficult time with this even admitting

2013
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:34,400
and telling the story and trying to have

2014
01:50:37,330 --> 01:50:36,050
people understand that I'm just telling

2015
01:50:40,780 --> 01:50:37,340
you the truth I'm telling you the

2016
01:50:43,750 --> 01:50:40,790
experience it's too crazy and then we

2017
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:43,760
get to the whole big question of are we

2018
01:50:50,470 --> 01:50:47,570
really in a holographic universe that

2019
01:50:55,660 --> 01:50:50,480
Michael Talbot wrote a book about and he

2020
01:50:58,900 --> 01:50:55,670
was an abductee secretly a person that

2021
01:51:02,110 --> 01:50:58,910
Budd Hopkins was working with Talbots

2022
01:51:05,290 --> 01:51:02,120
book it was the holographic universe

2023
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:05,300
came out I think it was 1992 or 93 it

2024
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:08,570
was a huge sensation and it was Budd

2025
01:51:18,060 --> 01:51:12,250
Hopkins we told me after how that died

2026
01:51:22,480 --> 01:51:18,070
that the secret was that Michael Talbot

2027
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:22,490
told bud that the whole book had been

2028
01:51:28,150 --> 01:51:25,130
downloaded from the extraterrestrials

2029
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:28,160
that he was dealing with the holographic

2030
01:51:33,580 --> 01:51:30,410
universe what if it's a holographic

2031
01:51:36,580 --> 01:51:33,590
universe Jimmy it has to be being

2032
01:51:39,970 --> 01:51:36,590
projected from another dimension

2033
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:39,980
you can't have the projector in the

2034
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:43,370
projection so if it's if this universe

2035
01:51:51,340 --> 01:51:46,850
were being projected as a hologram from

2036
01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:51,350
another universe how big is this

2037
01:51:57,070 --> 01:51:55,520
creation story and the dimensionality of

2038
01:52:00,310 --> 01:51:57,080
it I got to take a break right here but

2039
01:52:04,450 --> 01:52:00,320
they did another dimension another world

2040
01:52:07,450 --> 01:52:04,460
is something that fits in string theory

2041
01:52:11,470 --> 01:52:07,460
and it's it's how do I say this

2042
01:52:15,970 --> 01:52:11,480
it's a sliver in width but once you are

2043
01:52:18,850 --> 01:52:15,980
there it is just like here and physics

2044
01:52:21,130 --> 01:52:18,860
and string theory say that and the only

2045
01:52:24,130 --> 01:52:21,140
way that that math works is if these

2046
01:52:26,050 --> 01:52:24,140
extra dimensions actually exist our

2047
01:52:27,370 --> 01:52:26,060
guest tonight is Linda Moulton Howe

2048
01:52:28,900 --> 01:52:27,380
we're going to do some overtime with

2049
01:52:30,730 --> 01:52:28,910
Linda we'll be right back after this

2050
01:52:32,890 --> 01:52:30,740
short break stay with us

2051
01:52:34,420 --> 01:52:32,900
fade to black on the GameChanger network

2052
01:52:38,050 --> 01:52:34,430
in kg ra the

2053
01:52:39,970 --> 01:52:38,060
again follow me on twitter at JD oh and

2054
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:39,980
you can follow Linda on Twitter at

2055
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:42,530
earthfiles we'll be right back stay with

2056
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:42,810
us

2057
01:52:57,810 --> 01:52:56,460
welcome back fade to black I'm your host

2058
01:53:01,010 --> 01:52:57,820
Jimmy Church our guest tonight Linda

2059
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:01,020
Moulton Howe we are doing some overtime

2060
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:04,290
conversation was not ready to stop and

2061
01:53:12,410 --> 01:53:08,410
okay Linda Linda I'm gonna ask you this

2062
01:53:16,980 --> 01:53:12,420
question okay I've just here we go

2063
01:53:21,420 --> 01:53:16,990
flying saucer a craft lands at the at

2064
01:53:23,580 --> 01:53:21,430
the Moulton Howe estate right backyard

2065
01:53:30,060 --> 01:53:23,590
you go out and check it out and they go

2066
01:53:31,830 --> 01:53:30,070
Linda come with us do you go it's a

2067
01:53:35,340 --> 01:53:31,840
really good question

2068
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:35,350
and I guess the only way I can honestly

2069
01:53:43,140 --> 01:53:38,530
answer it is I have lived my entire life

2070
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:43,150
by my gut and that whatever I was

2071
01:53:48,590 --> 01:53:45,370
feeling at that moment and whatever I

2072
01:53:53,850 --> 01:53:48,600
was looking at and what ever the

2073
01:53:58,380 --> 01:53:53,860
frequencies were that I would want to be

2074
01:54:01,940 --> 01:53:58,390
able I've always wanted to have that

2075
01:54:04,670 --> 01:54:01,950
experience where I would be with allies

2076
01:54:08,970 --> 01:54:04,680
that knew everything about the universe

2077
01:54:12,270 --> 01:54:08,980
go on a craft see everything learn

2078
01:54:14,340 --> 01:54:12,280
everything that's that that's what makes

2079
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:14,350
me tick in many ways I'm so curious

2080
01:54:20,570 --> 01:54:16,210
about the whole universe and I would

2081
01:54:23,190 --> 01:54:20,580
love to have a safe friendly

2082
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:23,200
extraterrestrial with the craft show me

2083
01:54:29,220 --> 01:54:26,650
the universe but I'm also realistic as

2084
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:29,230
the remote viewers and others in the

2085
01:54:37,590 --> 01:54:32,370
military say not everything is friendly

2086
01:54:40,500 --> 01:54:37,600
so it's just like earth with people some

2087
01:54:42,630 --> 01:54:40,510
you could maybe go with and some you

2088
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:42,640
wouldn't want to go with and how are we

2089
01:54:47,490 --> 01:54:44,890
going to be educated and taught the

2090
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:47,500
difference that's what this probably the

2091
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:50,170
whole rest of this century is going to

2092
01:54:57,300 --> 01:54:52,930
be about in addition to we have the

2093
01:54:59,150 --> 01:54:57,310
threat of global weather change we're

2094
01:55:03,540 --> 01:54:59,160
going to be introduced to these other

2095
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:03,550
intelligences how will humanity know

2096
01:55:10,530 --> 01:55:07,210
what to trust that is a big issue

2097
01:55:13,620 --> 01:55:10,540
we've been lied to for millennia so the

2098
01:55:16,860 --> 01:55:13,630
answer is yes then you would go I would

2099
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:16,870
if I felt the frequencies were right my

2100
01:55:22,050 --> 01:55:19,570
gut was right I would love to go

2101
01:55:24,420 --> 01:55:22,060
wouldn't you love to go with somebody

2102
01:55:27,090 --> 01:55:24,430
who had a vast intelligence and could

2103
01:55:29,340 --> 01:55:27,100
take you around the universe and teach

2104
01:55:31,830 --> 01:55:29,350
you all sorts of things and show oh my

2105
01:55:37,650 --> 01:55:31,840
lord I would go in a second my only

2106
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:37,660
question would be though the food it

2107
01:55:43,590 --> 01:55:40,330
would be a really it would be a really

2108
01:55:46,710 --> 01:55:43,600
bad experience if it was bad food for

2109
01:55:53,190 --> 01:55:46,720
for a while it's probably not food at

2110
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:53,200
all that would be my only question now

2111
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:55,090
over the weekend I want to get back to

2112
01:55:58,410 --> 01:55:57,040
the interdimensional aspect of this but

2113
01:56:02,400 --> 01:55:58,420
over the weekend I was hosting coasts

2114
01:56:05,700 --> 01:56:02,410
and I had a I had John Greenwald on and

2115
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:05,710
I asked him this question that I would

2116
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:08,770
like to ask you which is you went

2117
01:56:16,290 --> 01:56:11,650
through and so did I but you went

2118
01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:16,300
through the the early to mid-90s of some

2119
01:56:24,300 --> 01:56:20,560
pretty exciting ufology times right you

2120
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:24,310
had Roswell mj-12 and Lazar your

2121
01:56:32,700 --> 01:56:27,010
research and the other things that were

2122
01:56:36,210 --> 01:56:32,710
just exploding out into ufology those

2123
01:56:39,090 --> 01:56:36,220
are actually you have to go back into 83

2124
01:56:43,950 --> 01:56:39,100
is when we got the Eisenhower document

2125
01:56:49,380 --> 01:56:43,960
and then the mj-12 some of the material

2126
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:49,390
about mj-12 the 80s were where it felt I

2127
01:56:59,610 --> 01:56:52,690
don't know more ominous and by the early

2128
01:57:02,940 --> 01:56:59,620
90s when Bob would when we got the some

2129
01:57:05,850 --> 01:57:02,950
of them like Psalm Psalm 101 I remember

2130
01:57:08,310 --> 01:57:05,860
that is being pivotal I think it is the

2131
01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:08,320
single most important document release

2132
01:57:14,340 --> 01:57:11,440
and that Psalm 101 document that Bob

2133
01:57:16,250 --> 01:57:14,350
wood blew up from its thirty

2134
01:57:19,950 --> 01:57:16,260
five-millimeter and this was a

2135
01:57:22,770 --> 01:57:19,960
35-millimeter negative and he made

2136
01:57:25,620 --> 01:57:22,780
eight and a half by eleven or eight by

2137
01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:25,630
tens from and then I remember there was

2138
01:57:30,270 --> 01:57:27,610
a group of us half a dozen of us who got

2139
01:57:35,010 --> 01:57:30,280
together at around that time that Bob

2140
01:57:37,170 --> 01:57:35,020
had gotten the film from Don Berliner to

2141
01:57:40,500 --> 01:57:37,180
Stanton Friedman and Stanton called Bob

2142
01:57:43,229 --> 01:57:40,510
and I still remember when there were

2143
01:57:45,930 --> 01:57:43,239
those guys and I were at a conference

2144
01:57:48,030 --> 01:57:45,940
and Bob wanted us to see what he was

2145
01:57:51,180 --> 01:57:48,040
getting from those 35 millimeters so I

2146
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:51,190
was one of the first people to see the

2147
01:57:56,940 --> 01:57:54,130
content and the psalm 101 training

2148
01:58:00,750 --> 01:57:56,950
manual is about extraterrestrial

2149
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:00,760
entities and their technology and its

2150
01:58:08,370 --> 01:58:04,239
how to recover and what to do and that

2151
01:58:11,130 --> 01:58:08,380
was at the period then especially 88

2152
01:58:14,340 --> 01:58:11,140
coming into the early 90s it was all

2153
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:14,350
becoming much harder meaning harder

2154
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:22,810
evidence and that by 93 1993 was a year

2155
01:58:31,140 --> 01:58:25,690
that if Churchill and Eisenhower had

2156
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:31,150
agreed with Truman back in the end of

2157
01:58:37,500 --> 01:58:35,290
the World War two that in 50 years they

2158
01:58:40,190 --> 01:58:37,510
would tell the truth that they would

2159
01:58:43,650 --> 01:58:40,200
release the story that was one of the

2160
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:43,660
apocryphal kind of tales that went

2161
01:58:51,510 --> 01:58:47,130
around that Churchill and Eisenhower and

2162
01:58:54,300 --> 01:58:51,520
Truman had agreed in 50 years and the

2163
01:58:58,620 --> 01:58:54,310
war ended it depends on which year you

2164
01:59:02,459 --> 01:58:58,630
add that 52 but 1993 had been discussed

2165
01:59:04,020 --> 01:59:02,469
as the year when confirmation that we

2166
01:59:09,709 --> 01:59:04,030
were not alone in the universe would

2167
01:59:14,459 --> 01:59:09,719
occur 1993 there was just one amazing

2168
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:14,469
crack after another but it was also the

2169
01:59:19,709 --> 01:59:17,290
time when there were the political chaos

2170
01:59:24,090 --> 01:59:19,719
around Clinton Bill Clinton remember

2171
01:59:26,670 --> 01:59:24,100
that yes and so whatever might have been

2172
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:26,680
planned might have been usurped and

2173
01:59:33,540 --> 01:59:28,570
turned upside down because of what was

2174
01:59:36,810 --> 01:59:33,550
happening politically and then the one

2175
01:59:44,010 --> 01:59:36,820
the things from when you go to March

2176
01:59:48,660 --> 01:59:44,020
13th 1997 four years after 1993 was the

2177
01:59:52,230 --> 01:59:48,670
huge flyover by multiple objects in the

2178
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:52,240
state of Arizona and the most important

2179
01:59:59,160 --> 01:59:55,570
thing there was the two-mile long

2180
02:00:01,830 --> 01:59:59,170
triangular craft that was seen and

2181
02:00:05,690 --> 02:00:01,840
estimates made by real estate people

2182
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:05,700
people on a freeway and that 2 mile long

2183
02:00:11,730 --> 02:00:08,050
triangle has been described before and

2184
02:00:15,030 --> 02:00:11,740
there's nobody making 2 mile long aerial

2185
02:00:18,030 --> 02:00:15,040
triangles in human factories anywhere on

2186
02:00:23,340 --> 02:00:18,040
the planet and that was truly the most

2187
02:00:28,730 --> 02:00:23,350
important part of March 13th 1997 but

2188
02:00:32,700 --> 02:00:28,740
the press in Phoenix they put out that

2189
02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:32,710
we'll call it the bow of light and the

2190
02:00:38,790 --> 02:00:35,170
bow of lights are what went out to the

2191
02:00:41,580 --> 02:00:38,800
world and it was probably calculated by

2192
02:00:44,250 --> 02:00:41,590
counter-intel we'll take the bulla of

2193
02:00:47,340 --> 02:00:44,260
light which was only a tiny part of what

2194
02:00:49,620 --> 02:00:47,350
happened in Arizona on that night the

2195
02:00:52,500 --> 02:00:49,630
triangle being the most important and

2196
02:00:54,900 --> 02:00:52,510
orange Globes over Luke Air Force Base

2197
02:00:57,450 --> 02:00:54,910
was another huge phenomena that was not

2198
02:00:59,760 --> 02:00:57,460
very well known to the public everybody

2199
02:01:03,300 --> 02:00:59,770
was thinking about that arc of those

2200
02:01:06,390 --> 02:01:03,310
lights and what happens within was it a

2201
02:01:11,550 --> 02:01:06,400
week two weeks Luke Air Force Base said

2202
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:11,560
that they were flares well there I went

2203
02:01:16,650 --> 02:01:12,970
down to Phoenix

2204
02:01:20,910 --> 02:01:16,660
to interview people we were it was art

2205
02:01:23,550 --> 02:01:20,920
Bell and me and we were doing coast and

2206
02:01:27,570 --> 02:01:23,560
and dreamland at that time and I went to

2207
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:27,580
Phoenix to interview people and got to

2208
02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:31,930
go up on to one of the houses in fact it

2209
02:01:37,110 --> 02:01:33,610
was the house that had the original

2210
02:01:38,610 --> 02:01:37,120
video that you saw throughout the United

2211
02:01:42,990 --> 02:01:38,620
States and the world of that arc of

2212
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:43,000
light the and they I got to go and they

2213
02:01:46,980 --> 02:01:45,130
set up the tripod and they set up the

2214
02:01:50,460 --> 02:01:46,990
camera on the terrace

2215
02:01:54,780 --> 02:01:50,470
and they pointed it and now it's I'm

2216
02:01:57,600 --> 02:01:54,790
looking and Sun bright sunlight and it

2217
02:02:02,540 --> 02:01:57,610
is pointed right down to the town of

2218
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:02,550
Phoenix at downtown there were other

2219
02:02:08,370 --> 02:02:06,490
calculations that argued that the ball

2220
02:02:11,550 --> 02:02:08,380
of lights was over the Estrella

2221
02:02:14,090 --> 02:02:11,560
mountains to the west of Phoenix why

2222
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:14,100
were those kind of confusing

2223
02:02:20,670 --> 02:02:17,650
measurements in something that the the

2224
02:02:23,130 --> 02:02:20,680
people with the cameras knew exactly

2225
02:02:26,850 --> 02:02:23,140
where they had the camera and where they

2226
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:26,860
were looking so I think that some of

2227
02:02:34,050 --> 02:02:30,370
that around the arc of light flares all

2228
02:02:37,050 --> 02:02:34,060
of it that that came in as confusion and

2229
02:02:40,290 --> 02:02:37,060
counterintelligence after the major

2230
02:02:42,870 --> 02:02:40,300
event of that two-mile-long triangle and

2231
02:02:47,550 --> 02:02:42,880
these strange orange globes and here's

2232
02:02:54,660 --> 02:02:47,560
one other piece I was I think it was

2233
02:02:58,890 --> 02:02:54,670
within a day or two after the March 1997

2234
02:03:00,920 --> 02:02:58,900
event that I got a phone call from a man

2235
02:03:06,710 --> 02:03:00,930
back east in New Jersey

2236
02:03:11,450 --> 02:03:06,720
he ran a boutique computer kind of a lab

2237
02:03:13,740 --> 02:03:11,460
company and they did boutique by

2238
02:03:15,420 --> 02:03:13,750
specifications for the Department of

2239
02:03:21,210 --> 02:03:15,430
Defense but the Pentagon they made

2240
02:03:23,850 --> 02:03:21,220
special computers and art Bell and I had

2241
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:23,860
known of this man and had talked with

2242
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:27,850
him before what happened in Phoenix so

2243
02:03:33,390 --> 02:03:31,090
he was a known quantity and we had

2244
02:03:35,690 --> 02:03:33,400
talked to him because of certain things

2245
02:03:38,660 --> 02:03:35,700
that he had learned in relationship to

2246
02:03:41,190 --> 02:03:38,670
UFOs the Department of Defense and

2247
02:03:44,100 --> 02:03:41,200
computers and satellites and then we had

2248
02:03:47,130 --> 02:03:44,110
a background with this guy so after the

2249
02:03:49,710 --> 02:03:47,140
March 13th event I think it was the very

2250
02:03:53,250 --> 02:03:49,720
next night he called me and he said

2251
02:03:58,920 --> 02:03:53,260
Linda just want you to know whatever

2252
02:04:00,930 --> 02:03:58,930
that was that came over Arizona last

2253
02:04:03,330 --> 02:04:00,940
night it took out

2254
02:04:09,020 --> 02:04:03,340
one of our most valuable Department of

2255
02:04:12,420 --> 02:04:09,030
Defense satellites now there's no proof

2256
02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:12,430
but we're back when when you get a call

2257
02:04:18,570 --> 02:04:15,130
like that you say what is the chess game

2258
02:04:20,660 --> 02:04:18,580
that is being played here what was the

2259
02:04:24,180 --> 02:04:20,670
relationship between the two-mile-long

2260
02:04:29,970 --> 02:04:24,190
triangle the big orange lights over Luke

2261
02:04:32,580 --> 02:04:29,980
Air Force Base the arc of Lights either

2262
02:04:36,810 --> 02:04:32,590
over downtown Phoenix or the Estrella

2263
02:04:39,630 --> 02:04:36,820
mountains or both and a report from

2264
02:04:41,550 --> 02:04:39,640
somebody who was a known quantity that

2265
02:04:44,490 --> 02:04:41,560
they had gotten confidential information

2266
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:44,500
that at the same time that this was

2267
02:04:49,500 --> 02:04:47,050
happening over Arizona that one of our

2268
02:04:54,689 --> 02:04:49,510
most valuable satellites was taken out

2269
02:04:59,790 --> 02:04:54,699
by something not from here this is why

2270
02:05:03,689 --> 02:04:59,800
to me beginning having confirmation and

2271
02:05:06,900 --> 02:05:03,699
then being told honestly we have allies

2272
02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:06,910
we have hostiles and there are neutrals

2273
02:05:14,790 --> 02:05:10,330
that we the human family we deserve to

2274
02:05:19,740 --> 02:05:14,800
be told the whole truth do you think

2275
02:05:21,660 --> 02:05:19,750
that's why the the the space force is

2276
02:05:25,740 --> 02:05:21,670
suddenly in the space command has been

2277
02:05:30,030 --> 02:05:25,750
formed and this conversation about you

2278
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:30,040
know the the the defense not only and

2279
02:05:36,110 --> 02:05:32,530
the wording that came out last week from

2280
02:05:39,320 --> 02:05:36,120
the Air Force about this that both

2281
02:05:43,410 --> 02:05:39,330
offensive and defensive capabilities

2282
02:05:47,100 --> 02:05:43,420
need to be in space now I read that and

2283
02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:47,110
underline that sentence I hear it let me

2284
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:49,330
give you the context of what I think is

2285
02:05:57,990 --> 02:05:54,370
the real truth Spartan one the Navy SEAL

2286
02:06:00,600 --> 02:05:58,000
that I was able to work with back

2287
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:00,610
lighted and voice altered in my video

2288
02:06:08,910 --> 02:06:05,170
about Antarctica and Spartan to the

2289
02:06:13,890 --> 02:06:08,920
Marines they both had knowledge that

2290
02:06:14,790 --> 02:06:13,900
since the 1970s we have had interstellar

2291
02:06:18,300 --> 02:06:14,800
trade

2292
02:06:21,060 --> 02:06:18,310
with the help of some ally non-human and

2293
02:06:23,070 --> 02:06:21,070
that in the interstellar trade route we

2294
02:06:26,270 --> 02:06:23,080
have been getting rare metals and

2295
02:06:30,570 --> 02:06:26,280
various things and that would mean that

2296
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:30,580
we would have an ally ship ally ally

2297
02:06:38,220 --> 02:06:35,410
ship a friend helping us in the United

2298
02:06:41,130 --> 02:06:38,230
States and China may have such a thing

2299
02:06:43,820 --> 02:06:41,140
Russia may have such a thing but that we

2300
02:06:50,150 --> 02:06:43,830
had had in ur cellar trade routes and

2301
02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:50,160
this would mean that our relationship

2302
02:06:56,880 --> 02:06:53,440
going back to the 70s and probably into

2303
02:06:59,520 --> 02:06:56,890
the 60s in the Apollo program is where

2304
02:07:01,970 --> 02:06:59,530
we began having some kind of

2305
02:07:05,340 --> 02:07:01,980
relationships with non-human

2306
02:07:09,300 --> 02:07:05,350
intelligences for reasons that are not

2307
02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:09,310
exactly clear but that there as a

2308
02:07:16,050 --> 02:07:12,730
Spartan one said with I've been told

2309
02:07:21,410 --> 02:07:16,060
that without those allies we may not be

2310
02:07:26,190 --> 02:07:21,420
here so there has been all of these

2311
02:07:28,110 --> 02:07:26,200
below the surface the black but makes

2312
02:07:31,710 --> 02:07:28,120
talk about the black world versus the

2313
02:07:34,230 --> 02:07:31,720
white world that the knowledge and the

2314
02:07:37,020 --> 02:07:34,240
sophistication and the relationships

2315
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:37,030
that have been going on apparently to

2316
02:07:41,970 --> 02:07:39,850
some degree with advanced intelligences

2317
02:07:48,510 --> 02:07:41,980
that have helped us have been going on

2318
02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:48,520
since the 70s and who comes in and would

2319
02:07:55,970 --> 02:07:53,170
melt a satellite who is that and then

2320
02:07:59,880 --> 02:07:55,980
are there subsequent subsequent wars

2321
02:08:02,820 --> 02:07:59,890
between non humans and nonhumans the

2322
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:02,830
Allies and the hostiles I don't know the

2323
02:08:08,370 --> 02:08:04,570
answers to those questions but I know

2324
02:08:12,360 --> 02:08:08,380
that it is implied that we have been

2325
02:08:13,140 --> 02:08:12,370
working with nonhumans for a very very

2326
02:08:17,190 --> 02:08:13,150
long time

2327
02:08:20,820 --> 02:08:17,200
when you have all of the over the last

2328
02:08:23,820 --> 02:08:20,830
couple of months the the Senate and you

2329
02:08:26,060 --> 02:08:23,830
know Capitol Hill being briefed on you

2330
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:26,070
APs and the

2331
02:08:30,970 --> 02:08:28,290
involved and last week the the Navy

2332
02:08:34,339 --> 02:08:30,980
announcing that for the first time using

2333
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:34,349
UAP to describe the three videos that

2334
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:37,050
were released last year President Trump

2335
02:08:44,959 --> 02:08:42,290
talking UFOs write a national television

2336
02:08:48,649 --> 02:08:44,969
they're implying that they're trying to

2337
02:08:50,510 --> 02:08:48,659
seek answers I think you and I and most

2338
02:08:53,330 --> 02:08:50,520
would agree that they already have those

2339
02:08:59,080 --> 02:08:53,340
answers but we're you know it's like

2340
02:09:02,930 --> 02:09:01,100
communication between the rest of the

2341
02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:02,940
world and actually what is going on what

2342
02:09:09,379 --> 02:09:06,090
do you make of that the sudden me yeah I

2343
02:09:13,669 --> 02:09:09,389
think the metaphor is wallpaper they are

2344
02:09:17,060 --> 02:09:13,679
trying to wallpaper the white world and

2345
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:17,070
the black world so that people will not

2346
02:09:23,540 --> 02:09:20,610
see what the black world has done and

2347
02:09:26,510 --> 02:09:23,550
they want the white world and the black

2348
02:09:28,550 --> 02:09:26,520
world to sort of be covered over that

2349
02:09:31,339 --> 02:09:28,560
they're making bridges that the the

2350
02:09:34,850 --> 02:09:31,349
space force my point was if we have had

2351
02:09:36,740 --> 02:09:34,860
interstellar trade since the 1970s then

2352
02:09:40,370 --> 02:09:36,750
the discussion of a brand-new space

2353
02:09:43,459 --> 02:09:40,380
force today that's that's just it's

2354
02:09:46,660 --> 02:09:43,469
window dressing it's sloppy bring over

2355
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:46,670
the reality and what they need so badly

2356
02:09:54,649 --> 02:09:51,690
they need a public trip that establishes

2357
02:09:56,600 --> 02:09:54,659
quote-unquote a public base on Mars

2358
02:09:58,790 --> 02:09:56,610
which I understand that they have been

2359
02:10:02,089 --> 02:09:58,800
going to Mars and a base there since the

2360
02:10:05,359 --> 02:10:02,099
70s as well they need something that

2361
02:10:07,339 --> 02:10:05,369
would explain to the general world this

2362
02:10:09,740 --> 02:10:07,349
Oh a light on Mars

2363
02:10:13,700 --> 02:10:09,750
oh well that's Elon Musk out lighting a

2364
02:10:17,149 --> 02:10:13,710
cigarette right I'm just silly but

2365
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:17,159
they've got to have or when I say

2366
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:19,770
they've got what I mean is they want to

2367
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:23,610
be able to cover up everything that they

2368
02:10:29,959 --> 02:10:25,770
are doing on the Moon and Mars and

2369
02:10:32,390 --> 02:10:29,969
probably beyond now in this as we move

2370
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:32,400
to the middle of the 21st century

2371
02:10:37,040 --> 02:10:34,530
they've got to have things that will

2372
02:10:39,620 --> 02:10:37,050
cover up what they're already doing and

2373
02:10:43,070 --> 02:10:39,630
so I think that the space

2374
02:10:47,210 --> 02:10:43,080
fourth is another one of those wallpaper

2375
02:10:50,740 --> 02:10:47,220
efforts the space force will then become

2376
02:10:55,100 --> 02:10:50,750
what the media and the public at large

2377
02:10:59,030 --> 02:10:55,110
get sort of I don't know what would you

2378
02:11:02,270 --> 02:10:59,040
call it that they the space force will

2379
02:11:05,710 --> 02:11:02,280
become the hallway through which they

2380
02:11:09,650 --> 02:11:05,720
will take the public in the media into

2381
02:11:11,750 --> 02:11:09,660
we we're going to now have a space force

2382
02:11:13,850 --> 02:11:11,760
that will be offensive and defensive

2383
02:11:16,820 --> 02:11:13,860
they've already had it they already have

2384
02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:16,830
it but they want to have this wallpaper

2385
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:20,730
so that they can do it in a transition

2386
02:11:25,940 --> 02:11:23,370
that quote unquote won't be shocking to

2387
02:11:30,440 --> 02:11:25,950
the world but what I said before that

2388
02:11:33,710 --> 02:11:30,450
last break I do not think that humans on

2389
02:11:36,040 --> 02:11:33,720
this planet should be coddled I think we

2390
02:11:39,500 --> 02:11:36,050
deserve to know absolutely everything

2391
02:11:42,200 --> 02:11:39,510
that the so-called powers Abid know and

2392
02:11:44,090 --> 02:11:42,210
that that's the only way that humans are

2393
02:11:46,610 --> 02:11:44,100
going to grow up and it may be the only

2394
02:11:50,270 --> 02:11:46,620
way that humans will stop fighting and

2395
02:11:52,880 --> 02:11:50,280
killing each other it's when they are

2396
02:11:56,560 --> 02:11:52,890
not cuddled and they are told the whole

2397
02:12:00,710 --> 02:11:56,570
truth about interdimensional realities

2398
02:12:04,610 --> 02:12:00,720
timeline manipulation of all kinds of

2399
02:12:09,380 --> 02:12:04,620
things that would then make humans look

2400
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:09,390
at each other perhaps as allies of a

2401
02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:13,050
species in a universe that is so far

2402
02:12:17,900 --> 02:12:14,970
different than what we've been taught

2403
02:12:21,560 --> 02:12:17,910
and that's where I think that

2404
02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:21,570
confirmation that it's all other

2405
02:12:26,270 --> 02:12:23,730
intelligences they're all there and

2406
02:12:29,360 --> 02:12:26,280
there is good and there's bad and

2407
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there's neutral and just like on earth

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02:12:37,310 --> 02:12:33,390
and if we are taught the truth about is

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this a holographic universe is it being

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02:12:44,390 --> 02:12:41,430
projected if it is why are we in it and

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02:12:48,290 --> 02:12:44,400
why is what in the holographic universe

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02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:48,300
there I don't find any of this scary I

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02:12:53,430 --> 02:12:51,330
find it exciting I want to know

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02:12:55,890 --> 02:12:53,440
everything I can possibly

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02:12:58,770 --> 02:12:55,900
we know about the universe we are in and

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02:13:01,290 --> 02:12:58,780
the cosmos that we are in and when I

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02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:01,300
talk with roger penrose last year

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02:13:10,950 --> 02:13:05,410
brilliant man about his book cycle of

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02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:10,960
time he is personally convinced that

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02:13:20,189 --> 02:13:14,530
there really isn't a singularity that it

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02:13:24,630 --> 02:13:20,199
is almost like infinite cycles of phases

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02:13:29,189 --> 02:13:24,640
of universes and dimensions and when you

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02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:29,199
start having your mind stretched to

2424
02:13:38,939 --> 02:13:35,050
think that infinity a cosmos

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02:13:42,780 --> 02:13:38,949
a divine field that has no beginning and

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02:13:49,010 --> 02:13:42,790
no end right and that every single thing

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02:13:54,959 --> 02:13:49,020
in it is constantly cycling recycling

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02:13:58,229 --> 02:13:54,969
evolving changing and we are alive on

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02:14:01,110 --> 02:13:58,239
this magnificent earth I think this

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02:14:05,990 --> 02:14:01,120
earth is incredible - we just give it a

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02:14:12,060 --> 02:14:06,000
chance that you have had the experience

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02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:12,070
of being alive on this amazing earth at

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02:14:17,010 --> 02:14:14,650
the time that where a lot of us were

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02:14:19,439 --> 02:14:17,020
able to have the excitement of knowing

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02:14:23,400 --> 02:14:19,449
the Apollo program watching live

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02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:23,410
television at the Armstrong landing of

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02:14:29,790 --> 02:14:26,010
the evolution to where we are now

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02:14:31,439 --> 02:14:29,800
knowing in my case the many military

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02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:31,449
people have talked to me about their

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02:14:36,750 --> 02:14:34,810
face to face with nonhumans not that

2441
02:14:41,130 --> 02:14:36,760
they don't beat around the bush but

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02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:41,140
they've worked with nonhumans and when

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02:14:48,300 --> 02:14:44,530
you say why can't the whole planet be

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02:14:53,280 --> 02:14:48,310
told this the vast majority of those

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02:14:57,689 --> 02:14:53,290
people say we don't know so Paul has a

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02:15:03,240 --> 02:14:57,699
vested interest in keeping Homo sapiens

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02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:03,250
sapiens dumb and blind who has a vested

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02:15:08,970 --> 02:15:05,290
interest in

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02:15:12,610 --> 02:15:08,980
those that profit off of it that's who

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02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:12,620
that's the sad part about it yeah it's

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02:15:19,450 --> 02:15:15,770
those that those that profit off of it

2452
02:15:22,780 --> 02:15:19,460
Linda incredible conversation young lady

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02:15:24,730 --> 02:15:22,790
thank you so much and really quick it's

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02:15:27,820 --> 02:15:24,740
always fun talking with you and I think

2455
02:15:30,970 --> 02:15:27,830
it's because we know our audiences now

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02:15:34,650 --> 02:15:30,980
are they've evolved they have grown I

2457
02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:34,660
get the most amazing letters and

2458
02:15:41,590 --> 02:15:38,450
experiences and people are way way

2459
02:15:44,560 --> 02:15:41,600
beyond asking anything about are we

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02:15:48,010 --> 02:15:44,570
going to have a space force I am an

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02:15:50,650 --> 02:15:48,020
event that my fellow human beings I'm

2462
02:15:53,050 --> 02:15:50,660
more than ready for the truth that were

2463
02:15:57,100 --> 02:15:53,060
not alone in this universe and that it

2464
02:16:00,430 --> 02:15:57,110
is high time in 2019 or 2020 that we get

2465
02:16:03,250 --> 02:16:00,440
confirmation that were not alone

2466
02:16:06,790 --> 02:16:03,260
tell us about your YouTube live that you

2467
02:16:11,070 --> 02:16:06,800
do each Wednesday night well it's really

2468
02:16:14,370 --> 02:16:11,080
fun and I go from 7:30 to 8:30 p.m.

2469
02:16:20,140 --> 02:16:14,380
mountain time and in all time zones and

2470
02:16:23,700 --> 02:16:20,150
I they don't over program I try to stay

2471
02:16:27,700 --> 02:16:23,710
with what are the exciting headlines and

2472
02:16:30,910 --> 02:16:27,710
I'm delving into all of these masses of

2473
02:16:34,270 --> 02:16:30,920
letters that I'm get getting with people

2474
02:16:36,760 --> 02:16:34,280
saying Linda I have never told anyone

2475
02:16:39,100 --> 02:16:36,770
X Y or Z it could be out-of-body it

2476
02:16:40,720 --> 02:16:39,110
could be straightforward discussions

2477
02:16:43,780 --> 02:16:40,730
with something that seems to be an

2478
02:16:45,970 --> 02:16:43,790
extraterrestrial it could be in dreams

2479
02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:45,980
about a future in which there may be

2480
02:16:53,080 --> 02:16:49,010
some kind of an apocalyptic event on the

2481
02:16:56,530 --> 02:16:53,090
planet it could be having to do have you

2482
02:16:58,360 --> 02:16:56,540
been someplace and you've seen what you

2483
02:17:00,640 --> 02:16:58,370
thought was a person in front of you and

2484
02:17:03,460 --> 02:17:00,650
they disappear it's amazing how many

2485
02:17:06,460 --> 02:17:03,470
people have had that experience and if

2486
02:17:08,980 --> 02:17:06,470
people all over the planet have had

2487
02:17:12,460 --> 02:17:08,990
experiences of seeing what they thought

2488
02:17:16,300 --> 02:17:12,470
were humans popped right out in front of

2489
02:17:18,070 --> 02:17:16,310
them is that related directly to what

2490
02:17:21,040 --> 02:17:18,080
jock Bolle when he wrote

2491
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:21,050
dimensions when he says inner dimensions

2492
02:17:26,650 --> 02:17:22,960
and dimensions is the key to all of this

2493
02:17:30,280 --> 02:17:26,660
but there are intelligences that are

2494
02:17:33,490 --> 02:17:30,290
popping in and out of our matter world

2495
02:17:35,950 --> 02:17:33,500
frequency in this specific dimensional

2496
02:17:40,290 --> 02:17:35,960
frequency because they have the

2497
02:17:43,180 --> 02:17:40,300
technology to move frequencies

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02:17:45,760 --> 02:17:43,190
dimensions the way we would play notes

2499
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:45,770
on a piano and I think that there's

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02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:49,130
something very close to that and then is

2501
02:17:55,510 --> 02:17:52,010
the excitement and we get into this on

2502
02:17:59,860 --> 02:17:55,520
my earthfiles youtube channel when I go

2503
02:18:03,100 --> 02:17:59,870
into exciting news headlines I usually

2504
02:18:07,900 --> 02:18:03,110
have a theme that I then go into and

2505
02:18:12,010 --> 02:18:07,910
talk about and the chats have some of

2506
02:18:14,350 --> 02:18:12,020
the most amazing communication and so I

2507
02:18:16,060 --> 02:18:14,360
feel like that what's happening in my

2508
02:18:19,720 --> 02:18:16,070
earthfiles YouTube channel on Wednesday

2509
02:18:22,780 --> 02:18:19,730
night is that I am having a dialog with

2510
02:18:26,770 --> 02:18:22,790
the world I'm getting letters from all

2511
02:18:30,459 --> 02:18:26,780
over the world a lot of people can write

2512
02:18:32,860 --> 02:18:30,469
in English coming from Korea or from

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02:18:35,740 --> 02:18:32,870
another country or they get somebody to

2514
02:18:38,770 --> 02:18:35,750
write to me in English and then in

2515
02:18:42,280 --> 02:18:38,780
emails I get from all over the world and

2516
02:18:45,100 --> 02:18:42,290
they can do translations so I'm

2517
02:18:47,550 --> 02:18:45,110
beginning to feel like I have an

2518
02:18:51,730 --> 02:18:47,560
audience it's growing growing growing

2519
02:18:54,490 --> 02:18:51,740
that is global and that the people who

2520
02:18:57,790 --> 02:18:54,500
are beginning to talk about subjects

2521
02:19:01,629 --> 02:18:57,800
they have never opened up before I feel

2522
02:19:06,300 --> 02:19:01,639
that kind of excitement when I click in

2523
02:19:09,270 --> 02:19:06,310
live at 7:30 p.m. not knowing exactly

2524
02:19:12,220 --> 02:19:09,280
what I'm going to learn from my audience

2525
02:19:16,390 --> 02:19:12,230
by the end of that hour in the chats

2526
02:19:21,669 --> 02:19:16,400
that come later and so it's sort of like

2527
02:19:22,480 --> 02:19:21,679
a live event in which anything could

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02:19:25,810 --> 02:19:22,490
happen

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02:19:29,020 --> 02:19:25,820
leading right up to 7:30 p.m. and I may

2530
02:19:31,060 --> 02:19:29,030
have had one breaking news headline I

2531
02:19:31,929 --> 02:19:31,070
was going to lead with and something

2532
02:19:35,439 --> 02:19:31,939
else comes in

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02:19:38,910 --> 02:19:35,449
and I go live with whatever is the most

2534
02:19:42,160 --> 02:19:38,920
interesting and exciting to start so I

2535
02:19:47,559 --> 02:19:42,170
want to say to all of you who are coming

2536
02:19:50,080 --> 02:19:47,569
that I love this interaction with an

2537
02:19:52,830 --> 02:19:50,090
audience about it's everything

2538
02:19:55,899 --> 02:19:52,840
it isn't just UFOs and other

2539
02:19:59,340 --> 02:19:55,909
intelligences it has a lot to do with

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02:20:02,590 --> 02:19:59,350
what is the nature of the soul we've had

2541
02:20:05,649 --> 02:20:02,600
penetrating profound programs on that

2542
02:20:09,729 --> 02:20:05,659
and the letters that I have gotten from

2543
02:20:12,279 --> 02:20:09,739
people who have had experiences with say

2544
02:20:15,429 --> 02:20:12,289
they're dying parent and are convinced

2545
02:20:19,239 --> 02:20:15,439
that the soul of their parent came back

2546
02:20:26,349 --> 02:20:19,249
to them or whatever it is that our our

2547
02:20:30,580 --> 02:20:26,359
body our organic body is not all that we

2548
02:20:35,170 --> 02:20:30,590
are and that that animating force that

2549
02:20:38,170 --> 02:20:35,180
word soul it comes up in the abductions

2550
02:20:41,469 --> 02:20:38,180
where the people in abductions will get

2551
02:20:44,410 --> 02:20:41,479
a telepathic impression from whatever

2552
02:20:46,750 --> 02:20:44,420
entity is in front of them that refers

2553
02:20:51,250 --> 02:20:46,760
to their entity this has happened in

2554
02:20:57,189 --> 02:20:51,260
many cases as if there is great interest

2555
02:21:00,969 --> 02:20:57,199
in the sole entity that gives thee I

2556
02:21:04,420 --> 02:21:00,979
think it's the life force to the life of

2557
02:21:06,849 --> 02:21:04,430
humans and that ultimately one of the

2558
02:21:10,830 --> 02:21:06,859
most interesting shows I did was a

2559
02:21:14,500 --> 02:21:10,840
discussion about what is the true

2560
02:21:18,639 --> 02:21:14,510
special force of the human soul and

2561
02:21:22,210 --> 02:21:18,649
maybe if we knew the whole truth of this

2562
02:21:26,080 --> 02:21:22,220
whole universe other universes other

2563
02:21:28,960 --> 02:21:26,090
dimensions other timelines that we would

2564
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:28,970
know that the divine field may be pulled

2565
02:21:35,620 --> 02:21:31,930
the rug out from under from under

2566
02:21:39,760 --> 02:21:35,630
manipulating intelligences and placed a

2567
02:21:42,849 --> 02:21:39,770
strong vibrant unique soul in evolving

2568
02:21:45,430 --> 02:21:42,859
primates on earth and that's the power

2569
02:21:50,790 --> 02:21:45,440
of the human soul

2570
02:21:54,960 --> 02:21:50,800
is longed for an envied by the

2571
02:21:57,580 --> 02:21:54,970
artificial intelligences and the other

2572
02:22:00,490 --> 02:21:57,590
intelligences that interact with us and

2573
02:22:04,870 --> 02:22:00,500
that if we knew that truth and we lived

2574
02:22:07,560 --> 02:22:04,880
that truth how could Homo Sapien sapien

2575
02:22:11,470 --> 02:22:07,570
ever kill each other again

2576
02:22:13,330 --> 02:22:11,480
Linda Moulton Howe thank you so much

2577
02:22:15,460 --> 02:22:13,340
Linda and keep doing what you're doing

2578
02:22:19,810 --> 02:22:15,470
and never change I know I don't need to

2579
02:22:22,420 --> 02:22:19,820
say it but thank you so much Linda and

2580
02:22:24,370 --> 02:22:22,430
enjoy the rest of your Monday night

2581
02:22:27,100 --> 02:22:24,380
thank you so much all right god bless

2582
02:22:30,370 --> 02:22:27,110
you and all of your listeners thank you

2583
02:22:33,370 --> 02:22:30,380
so much Linda Moulton Howe now very

2584
02:22:35,410 --> 02:22:33,380
simple all of Linda's links are over at

2585
02:22:38,440 --> 02:22:35,420
Jimmy Church radio calm her files

2586
02:22:40,360 --> 02:22:38,450
earthfiles calm at earth files on

2587
02:22:42,310 --> 02:22:40,370
Twitter and of course Wednesday nights

2588
02:22:44,910 --> 02:22:42,320
right there on YouTube all the

2589
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:44,920
information is over at birth files calm

2590
02:22:52,030 --> 02:22:50,170
we rolled right past our network break

2591
02:22:53,710 --> 02:22:52,040
that's because it was a great

2592
02:22:55,570 --> 02:22:53,720
conversation thank you so much Linda

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02:22:57,610 --> 02:22:55,580
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night right here Adam Apollo I want

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everybody to be saved go back Lee